On 8/6/23 15:56, Robert Haas wrote:
Yeah, I've had similar thoughts. I'm not exactly sure what the
advantages of such a refactoring might be, but the current structure
feels pretty limiting. It works OK because we don't do anything in the
postmaster other than fork a new backend, but I'm not sure if that's
the best strategy. It means, for example, that if there's a ton of new
connection requests, we're spawning a ton of new processes, which
means that you can put a lot of load on a PostgreSQL instance even if
you can't authenticate. Maybe we'd be better off with a pool of
processes accepting connections; if authentication fails, that
connection goes back into the pool and tries again.

    This. It's limited by connection I/O, hence a perfect use for threads (minimize per-connection overhead).

IMV, "session state" would be best stored/managed here. Would need a way to convey it efficiently, though.

If authentication
succeeds, either that process transitions to being a regular backend,
leaving the authentication pool, or perhaps hands off the connection
to a "real backend" at that point and loops around to accept() the
next request.

Nicely done by passing the FD around....

But at this point, we'd just get a nice reimplementation of a threaded connection pool inside Postgres :\

Whether that's a good ideal in detail or not, the point remains that
having the postmaster handle this task is quite limiting. It forces us
to hand off the connection to a new process at the earliest possible
stage, so that the postmaster remains free to handle other duties.
Giving the responsibility to another process would let us make
decisions about where to perform the hand-off based on real
architectural thought rather than being forced to do a certain way
because nothing else will work.

At least "tcop" surely feels like belonging in a separate process ....


    J.L.



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