On 06/05/2018 07:45 AM, Chris Travers wrote:
It is my hope that PostgreSQL.Org -Core chooses members for that
committee that are exceedingly diverse otherwise it is just an echo
chamber for a single ideology and that will destroy this community.
If I may suggest: The committee should be international as well and
include people from around the world. The last thing we want is for it
to be dominated by people from one particular cultural viewpoint.
+1
"considered offensive by fellow members"
Is definitely too broad. The problem comes in here:
I might possibly say that "I'm the master in this area" when
talking to someone on a technical subject. In the sense that
I'm better at that particular skill, but some hypersensitive
American could get their knickers in a twist (notice, that in
this context, no gender is implied -- also in using that that
expression "get their knickers in a twist" could offend some
snowflake) claiming that I'm suggesting that whoever
"snowflake", I find that term hilarious others find it highly
offensive. Which is correct?
I agree with both concerns in the above exchange.
This is an economic common project. The goal should be for people to
come together and act civilly. Waging culture war using the code of
conduct itself should be a violation of the code of conduct and this
goes on *all* (not just one or two) sides.
[snip]
Yes and that is a problem. We need to have some simple barrier of
acceptance that we are all adults here (or should act like adults).
Knowing your audience is important.
I would point out also that the PostgreSQL community is nice and
mature. At PGConf US I saw what appeared to be two individuals with red
MAGA hats. And yet everyone managed to be civil. We manage to do
better than the US does on the whole in this regard and we should be
proud of ourselves.
To be fair, those were South Africans but yes, nobody gave them any
public grief as far as I know.
Correct. I think one way to look at all of this is, "if you wouldn't
say it to your boss or a client don't say it here". That too has
problems but generally speaking I think it keeps the restrictions
rational.
I will post a more specific set of thoughts here but in general I think
the presumption ought to be that people are trying to work together.
Misunderstanding can happen. But let's try to act in a collegial and
generally respectful way around eachother.
+1
JD
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