On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 at 18:08, Jelte Fennema-Nio <postg...@jeltef.nl> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 at 17:50, Andres Freund <and...@anarazel.de> wrote:
> > > The OAuth pytest suite makes extensive use of
> > > - psycopg, to easily drive libpq;
> >
> > That's probably not going to fly. It introduces painful circular 
> > dependencies
> > between building postgres (for libpq), building psycopg (requiring libpq) 
> > and
> > testing postgres (requiring psycopg).
>
> psycopg has a few implementations binary, c, & pure python. The pure
> python one can be linked to a specific libpq.so file at runtime[1]. As

This is true, but [citation needed] :D I assume the pointer wanted to
be https://www.psycopg.org/psycopg3/docs/api/pq.html#pq-impl

I see the following use cases and how I would use psycopg to implement them:

- by installing 'psycopg[binary]' you would get a binary bundle
shipping with a stable version of the libpq, so you can test the
database server regardless of libpq instabilities in the same
codebase.
- using the pure Python psycopg (enforced by exporting
'PSYCOPG_IMPL=python') you would use the libpq found on the
LD_LIBRARY_PATH, which can be useful to test regressions to the libpq
itself.
- if you want to test new libpq functions you can reach them in Python
by dynamic lookup. See [2] for an example of a function only available
from libpq v17.

[2]: 
https://github.com/psycopg/psycopg/blob/2bf7783d66ab239a2fa330a842fd461c4bb17c48/psycopg/psycopg/pq/_pq_ctypes.py#L564-L569

-- Daniele


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