On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 5:52 PM, Tom Lane <t...@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:

> Thomas Munro <thomas.mu...@enterprisedb.com> writes:
> > On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 5:46 AM, Marco van Eck <marco.van...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Since .pgpass files contain plain-text passwords, I searched for an
> >> alternative.
> >> In the attached patch I've added the possibility to run a command to
> produce
> >> the content of the pgpass file, in exactly the same format.
>
> > ... Here you side step those questions completely and make that the end
> > user's problem.   I like it.
>
> ... but doesn't this just encourage people to build hacks that aren't
> really any more secure than the unreadable-file approach?  In fact,
> I'm afraid this would be an attractive nuisance, in that people would
> build one-off hacks that get no security vetting and don't really work.
>
> I'd like to see a concrete example of a use-case that really does add
> security; preferably one short and useful enough to put into the docs
> so that people might copy-and-paste it rather than rolling their own.
> It seems possible that something of the sort could be built atop
> ssh-agent or gpg-agent, for instance.
>

If the goal is not unattended operation but just unannoying operation, I
think the first example he provided is already that use-case.  If you
already have gpg configured to use gpg-agent, then it just works.  You get
encryption-at-rest, and you don't have to type in your password repeatedly
in the same continuous shell session.

Cheers,

Jeff

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