Hello. At Fri, 14 Sep 2018 22:01:39 +0900, Etsuro Fujita <fujita.ets...@lab.ntt.co.jp> wrote in <5b9bb133.1060...@lab.ntt.co.jp> > (2018/08/24 16:58), Kyotaro HORIGUCHI wrote: > > At Tue, 21 Aug 2018 11:01:32 +0900 (Tokyo Standard Time), Kyotaro > > HORIGUCHI<horiguchi.kyot...@lab.ntt.co.jp> wrote > > in<20180821.110132.261184472.horiguchi.kyot...@lab.ntt.co.jp> > >>> You wrote: > >>>> Several places seems to be assuming that fdw_scan_tlist may be > >>>> used foreign scan on simple relation but I didn't find that > >>>> actually happens. > >>> > >>> Yeah, currently, postgres_fdw and file_fdw don't use that list for > >>> simple foreign table scans, but it could be used to improve the > >>> efficiency for those scans, as explained in fdwhandler.sgml: > > ... > >> I'll put more consideration on using fdw_scan_tlist in the > >> documented way. > > > > Done. postgres_fdw now generates full fdw_scan_tlist (as > > documented) for foreign relations with junk columns having a > > small change in core side. However it is far less invasive than > > the previous version and I believe that it dones't harm > > maybe-existing use of fdw_scan_tlist on non-join rels (that is, > > in the case of a subset of relation columns). > > Yeah, changes to the core by the new version is really small, which is > great, but I'm not sure it's a good idea to modify the catalog info on > the target table on the fly: > > @@ -126,8 +173,18 @@ get_relation_info(PlannerInfo *root, Oid > relationObjectId,\ > bool inhparent, > (errcode(ERRCODE_FEATURE_NOT_SUPPORTED), > errmsg("cannot access temporary or unlogged relations during > r\ > ecovery"))); > > + max_attrnum = RelationGetNumberOfAttributes(relation); > + > + /* Foreign table may have exanded this relation with junk columns */ > + if (root->simple_rte_array[varno]->relkind == RELKIND_FOREIGN_TABLE) > + { > + AttrNumber maxattno = max_varattno(root->parse->targetList, varno); > + if (max_attrnum < maxattno) > + max_attrnum = maxattno; > + } > + > rel->min_attr = FirstLowInvalidHeapAttributeNumber + 1; > - rel->max_attr = RelationGetNumberOfAttributes(relation); > + rel->max_attr = max_attrnum; > rel->reltablespace = RelationGetForm(relation)->reltablespace; > > This breaks the fundamental assumption that rel->max_attr is equal to > RelationGetNumberOfAttributes of that table. My concern is: this > change would probably be a wart, so it would be bug-prone in future > versions.
Hmm. I believe that once RelOptInfo is created all attributes defined in it is safely accessed. Is it a wrong assumption? Actually RelationGetNumberOfAttributes is used in few distinct places while planning. expand_targetlist uses it to scan the source relation's nonjunk attributes. get_rel_data_width uses it to scan width of attributes in statistics. It fails to add junk's width but it dones't harm so much.. build_physical_tlist is not used for foreign relations. build_path_tlist creates a tlist without proper resjunk flags but create_modifytable_plan immediately fixes that. If we don't accept the expanded tupdesc for base relations, the another way I can find is transforming the foreign relation into something another like a subquery, or allowing expansion of attribute list of a base relation... > Another thing on the new version: > > @@ -1575,6 +1632,19 @@ build_physical_tlist(PlannerInfo *root, > RelOptInfo *rel) > relation = heap_open(rte->relid, NoLock); > > numattrs = RelationGetNumberOfAttributes(relation); > + > + /* > + * Foreign tables may have expanded with some junk columns. Punt > + * in the case. ... > I think this would disable the optimization on projection in foreign > scans, causing performance regression. Well, in update/delete cases, create_plan_recurse on foreign scan is called with CP_EXACT_TLIST in create_modifytable_plan so the code path is not actually used. Just replacing the if clause with Assert seems to change nothing. I'm not sure we will add junks in other cases but it's not likely.. > > One arguable behavior change is about wholrow vars. Currently it > > refferes local tuple with all columns but it is explicitly > > fetched as ROW() after this patch applied. This could be fixed > > but not just now. > > > > Part of 0004-: > > - Output: f1, ''::text, ctid, rem1.* > > - Remote SQL: SELECT f1, f2, ctid FROM public.loc1 FOR UPDATE > > + Output: f1, ''::text, tableoid, ctid, rem1.* > > + Remote SQL: SELECT f1, tableoid, ctid, ROW(f1, f2) FROM public.loc1 > > FOR UPDATE > > That would be also performance regression. If we go in this > direction, that should be fixed. Agreed. Will consider sooner.. > > Since this uses fdw_scan_tlist so it is theoretically > > back-patchable back to 9.6. > > IIRC, the fdw_scan_tlist stuff was introduced in PG9.5 as part of join > pushdown infrastructure, so I think your patch can be back-patched to > PG9.5, but I don't think that's enough; IIRC, this issue was > introduced in PG9.3, so a solution for this should be back-patch-able > to PG9.3, I think. In the previous version, fdw_scan_tlist is used to hold only additional (junk) columns. I think that we can get rid of the variable by scanning the full tlist for junk columns. Apparently it's differnt patch for such versions. I'm not sure how much it is invasive for now but will consider. > > Please find the attached three files. > > Thanks for the patches! > > > 0001-Add-test-for-postgres_fdw-foreign-parition-update.patch > > > > This should fail for unpatched postgres_fdw. (Just for demonstration) > > +CREATE TABLE p1 (a int, b int); > +CREATE TABLE c1 (LIKE p1) INHERITS (p1); > +CREATE TABLE c2 (LIKE p1) INHERITS (p1); > +CREATE FOREIGN TABLE fp1 (a int, b int) > + SERVER loopback OPTIONS (table_name 'p1'); > +INSERT INTO c1 VALUES (0, 1); > +INSERT INTO c2 VALUES (1, 1); > +SELECT tableoid::int - (SELECT min(tableoid) FROM fp1)::int AS > toiddiff, ctid, * FROM fp1; > > Does it make sense to evaluate toiddiff? I think that should always > be 0. Right. it is checking that the values are not those of remote table oids. If it is always 0 and the problematic foreign update succeeds, it is working correctly. ======= > > 0003-Fix-of-foreign-update-bug-of-PgFDW.patch > > > > Fix of postgres_fdw for this problem. > > Sorry, I have not looked at it closely yet, but before that I'd like > to discuss the direction we go in. I'm not convinced that your > approach is the right direction, so as promised, I wrote a patch using > the Param-based approach, and compared the two approaches. Attached > is a WIP patch for that, which includes the 0003 patch. I don't think > there would be any warts as discussed above in the Param-based > approach for now. (That approach modifies the planner so that the > targetrel's tlist would contain Params as well as Vars/PHVs, so > actually, it breaks the planner assumption that a rel's tlist would > only include Vars/PHVs, but I don't find any issues on that at least > for now. Will look into that in more detail.) And I don't think > there would be any concern about performance regression, either. > Maybe I'm missing something, though. > > What do you think about that? Hmm. It is beyond my understanding. Great work (for me)! I confirmed that a FOREIGN_PARAM_EXEC is evaluated and stored into the parent node. For the mentioned Merge/Sort/ForeignScan case, Sort node takes the parameter value via projection. I didn't know PARAM_EXEC works that way. I consulted nodeNestLoop but not fully understood. So I think it works. I still don't think expanded tupledesc is not wart but this is smarter than that. Addition to that, it seems back-patchable. I must admit that yours is better. > Note about the attached: I tried to invent a utility for > generate_new_param like SS_make_initplan_output_param as mentioned in > [1], but since the FDW API doesn't pass PlannerInfo to the FDW, I > think the FDW can't call the utility the same way. Instead, I > modified the planner so that 1) the FDW adds Params without setting > PARAM_EXEC Param IDs using a new function, and then 2) the core fixes > the IDs. Agreed on not having PlannerInfo. I'll re-study this. Some comments on this right now are the follows. It seems reserving the name remotetableoid, which doen't seem to be used by users but not never. Maybe paramid space of FOREIGN_PARAM is not necessarily be the same with ordinary params that needs signalling aid. > Sorry for the delay. > > Best regards, > Etsuro Fujita > > [1] > https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/3919.1527775582%40sss.pgh.pa.us regards. -- Kyotaro Horiguchi NTT Open Source Software Center