On 3/29/19 11:58 AM, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
On 2019-03-20 14:42, Magnus Hagander wrote:
But that would be factually incorrect and backwards, so it seems like a
terrible idea, at least when it comes to manual. If you are doing it
manually, it's a lot *easier* to do it right with the non-exclusive
mode, because you can easily keep one psql and one shell open. And
that's safe.

The scenario I have in mind is, a poorly maintained server, nothing
installed, can't install anything (no internet connection, license
expired), flaky network, you fear it's going to fail soon, you need to
take a backup.  The simplest procedure would appear to be: start backup
mode, copy files away, stop backup mode.  Anything else that involves
holding a session open over there for the whole time is way more fragile
unless proper preparations have been made (and even then).  So I don't
know what you want to call that scenario, but I would feel more
comfortable having these basic tools available in a bind.

I would argue the best thing in this scenario is to use pg_basebackup. It's a solid tool and likely far better than any script the user might cook up on the spot.

Regards,
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-David
da...@pgmasters.net


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