On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 12:48:35PM +1200, Thomas Munro wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 6:42 PM Noah Misch <n...@leadboat.com> wrote:
> > - AIX animals failed two ways.  First, I missed a "use" statement such that
> >   poll_start() would fail if it needed more than one attempt.  Second, I
> >   assumed $pid would be gone as soon as kill(9, $pid) returned[1].
> 
> > [1] POSIX says "sig or at least one pending unblocked signal shall be
> > delivered to the sending thread before kill() returns."  I doubt the
> > postmaster had another signal pending often enough to explain the failures, 
> > so
> > AIX probably doesn't follow POSIX in this respect.
> 
> It looks like you fixed this, but I was curious about this obversation
> as someone interested in learning more about kernel stuff and
> portability... Maybe I misunderstood, but isn't POSIX referring to
> kill(sig, $YOUR_OWN_PID) there?  That is, if you signal *yourself*,
> and no other thread exists that could handle the signal, it will be
> handled by the sending thread, and in the case of SIGKILL it will
> therefore never return.  But here, you were talking about a perl
> script that kills the postmaster, no?  If so, that passage doesn't
> seem to apply.

You're right.  I revoke the footnote.

> In any case, regardless of whether the signal handler
> has run to completion when kill() returns, doesn't the pid have to
> continue to exist in the process table until it is reaped by its
> parent (possibly in response to SIGCHLD), with one of the wait*()
> family of system calls?

True.  I'll add that to the code comment.


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