On Wed, 14 Oct 2020, 13:06 Michael Paquier, <mich...@paquier.xyz> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 02:48:18PM +1300, Thomas Munro wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 12:53 AM Michael Banck > > <michael.ba...@credativ.de> wrote: > >> One question about this: Did you consider the case of a basebackup being > >> copied/restored somewhere and the restore/PITR being started? Shouldn't > >> Postgres then sync the whole data directory first in order to assure > >> durability, or do we consider this to be on the tool that does the > >> copying? Or is this not needed somehow? > > > > To go with precise fsyncs, we'd have to say that it's the job of the > > creator of the secondary copy. Unfortunately that's not a terribly > > convenient thing to do (or at least the details vary). > > Yeah, it is safer to assume that it is the responsability of the > backup tool to ensure that because it could be possible that a host is > unplugged just after taking a backup, and having Postgres do this work > at the beginning of archive recovery would not help in most cases. > Let's document that assumption in the docs for pg_basebackup and the file system copy based replica creation docs. With a reference to initdb's datadir sync option. IMO this comes back to the point where we usually should not care much > how long a backup takes as long as it is done right. Users care much > more about how long a restore takes until consistency is reached. And > this is in line with things that have been done via bc34223b or > 96a7128. > -- > Michael >