Lamar Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Tom Lane wrote:
>> If you think it's easy enough, enlighten the rest of us ;-).

> If postgres reported PGDATA on the command line it would be easy enough.

In ps status you mean?  I don't think we are prepared to require ps
status functionality to let the system start up... we'd lose a number
of supported platforms that way.


>> I think refusal to start is sufficient.  They should go away by
>> themselves as their clients disconnect, and forcing the issue doesn't

> ???? I have misunderstood your previous statement about not wanting to
> force a manual crash recovery, then.

In the case of an actual crash and restart, postgres should come back up
without help.  However, the situation here is not a crash, it is
incomplete admin intervention.  I don't think that expecting the admin
to complete his intervention is the same thing as manual crash recovery.
I especially don't think that we should second-guess what the admin
wants us to do by auto-killing backends that are still serving clients.

                        regards, tom lane

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