On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 08:00:36PM -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote: > Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2008-01-07 at 17:12 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > > > > > if no serious bugs come up this week, core is thinking of wrapping > > > > > 8.3.0 at the end of the week, > > > > > > > > Please give the packagers and other people one more week break > > > > between two releases. We all had a busy weekend. > > > > > > We have thousands of people waiting for the 8.3 release. It seems odd > > > to hold up 8.3 because the packagers are too busy. Perhaps we need > > > more packagers or release the source and have the binary packages > > > ready later. > > > > Perhaps we need to allow the release candidate to percolate and be > > tested a bit before we rush to release. If I recall, it is release when > > it is done not release because lots of people are waiting for it. > > Right, but you are mixing source code not ready with packagers not > ready. They are two different things. > > I am not saying we are ready to release but if we determine the source > code is ready I would like to avoid more delay because the packagers > aren't ready.
(Yes, I read Toms message saying we are not ready, but these points apply anyway) I think you greatly underestimate how important the binary distributions are. If they are not available at release time, we will get a *lot* of questions about that. I know it's certainly true for win32 packaging, and I beleive it is for the others as well. More importantly, we haven't even announced RC1 yet. Which means that we're now talking maybe 4 days of RC before we wrap release, which seems way too little. And in fact, just 4 days of warnings for the packagers for something as big as this isn't enough *even if we hadn't just released the back branches*. And we normally give them more warning. Also note that the tentative release timeline says that the presskit should be verified 6 days before release, something which hasn't even been started. Translations of presskits shuold be finished 10 days before. Embargoed pressreleases should go out 7 days before. etc. Buttom line, I think Devrim has a very valid complaint. For more reasons than he actually stated :-) That said, 2 or 3 weeks from now seems very doable. But let's pick an actual date around taht and inform the packagers and press contacts about it so they can prepare. //Magnus ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly