> > My point is that we'll need in dynamic cleanup anyway and UNDO is > > what should be implemented for dynamic cleanup of aborted changes. > > I do not yet understand why you want to handle aborts different than > outdated tuples. Maybe because of aborted tuples have shorter Time-To-Live. And probability to find pages for them in buffer pool is higher. > The ratio in a well tuned system should well favor outdated tuples. > If someone ever adds "dirty read" it is also not the case that it > is guaranteed, that nobody accesses the tuple you currently want > to undo. So I really miss to see the big difference. It will not be guaranteed anyway as soon as we start removing tuples without exclusive access to relation. And, I cannot say that I would implement UNDO because of 1. (cleanup) OR 2. (savepoints) OR 4. (pg_log management) but because of ALL of 1., 2., 4. Vadim ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html
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