Bruce Momjian <br...@momjian.us> writes: > Peter Eisentraut wrote: >> discernible benefits. But you can't expect a lot of people or employers >> to reserve time on top of that for handholding other people's patches >> and for other "community" stuff that has no easy to measure benefits. > > Totally agree. It is that zero-return work that is hard to justify for > people and companies. It is clearly something that requires > self-sacrifice, and personally I think a culture of self-sacrifice is > what has given us such great success and such a nuturing community > environment.
I don't know what you're talking about here, or refering to. The easy way to explain Open Source contributing to PHB and finance people, in my mind, is the following: Open Source is not free as in free beer. At all. Rather than paying licences costs, what you have to pay for is your employees salary when they take the time to participate into this community things. And if you're using Open Source Software, you *need* employees that take part of the community processes. That also mean you have real experts now, and ones able to drive the project in a direction that will be to your profit as an employer. For example, this hairy bug in your production environment will get fixed the day you report about it, rather that when the licencing company think it matches their roadmap, if ever. Oh and some other niceties about it. Let's try the "story telling" style... When I worked on preprepare, I though we had an urgent need here to run it. It happened that we had yet more urgent to do, so I barely had time to have it working and commit it on some pgfoundry CVS. Less than a week after, I'm told on IRC that the product is running fine in a production environment somewhere, taking real load. Now I don't have to make tests before deploying. That has been done for me. That's Open Source. Regards, -- dim Is it 2009 and we're still having this discussion about how participating into Open Source communities is a good way to spend your money as an employer? Wow. -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers