On Jul 15, 2010, at 11:59 AM, Simon Riggs <si...@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 18:43 +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 18:35, Simon Riggs <si...@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 17:38 +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Is there an actual common use-case for having these commands available
>>>> for *non-psql* interfaces?
>>> 
>>> There are many interfaces out there and people writing new ones
>>> everyday. We just wrote an interface for Android, for example.
>>> 
>>> It is arguably *more* important to do this from non-psql interfaces.
>>> 
>>> There should be one command to "display a list of tables" and it needs
>>> to be easily guessable for those who have forgotten.
>> 
>> The downside is that you are then limited to what can be returned as a
>> resultset. A "\d table" in psql returns a hell of a lot more than
>> that. So do we keep two separate formats for this? Or do we remove the
>> current, useful, output format in favor of a much worse formt just to
>> support more clients?
> 
> I imagined that we would do something similar to EXPLAIN, a set of text
> rows returned.

That seems rather wretched for machine-parsability, which I think is an 
important property for anything we do in this area.  We need to think harder 
about how we could structure this to allow returning more than just a tabular 
result set while still allowing clients easy programmatic access to the 
underlying data.

> It should be possible to migrate \d options to using new outputs, when
> everything works in a useful manner. Probably not in this release.
> 
> If I get some working solutions ready for Sept 15 we then have 4 months
> for other people to patch away at this.

Sounds good, but we need agreement on a more detailed design first.

...Robert
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