On Jul 11, 2011, at 11:55 AM, "Kevin Grittner" <kevin.gritt...@wicourts.gov> 
wrote:
> Robert Haas <robertmh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I find these responses to be a bit off point.
> 
> The OP is basically looking for what Florian tried to implement. 
> This is perhaps a *bit* off point, but arguably not more than
> pointing someone who is requesting planner hints in another
> direction.  And someone thought the issues were related here:
> 
> http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2010-12/msg01792.php
> 
>  ;-)

Well, fair enough. I thought of the connection between this request and 
Florian's work, too.  I would very much like to support what he proposed, but 
it doesn't appear viable without a heapam rewrite, or maybe a lock manager 
rewrite. However, I think that's a somewhat separate question from whether we 
need to forbid SFU on the outer side of a join.

Tom's question seems to me to be right on target: what semantics do our 
competitors assign to this construct?  And do they broadly agree with each 
other?

>> Evidently our competition does not agree
> 
> Neither on this nor on planner hints.  ;-)

Well, we are a pretty smart group of people. But I don't think we should 
completely ignore what other people are doing, on any topic.

...Robert
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