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Tom and Simon wrote: >> If you want to get rid of rules, build the >> replacement; don't just try to be a pain in the ass to users. > Supporting broken and non-standard features *is* a pain in the ass to > users, since they are sometimes persuaded to use them and then regret > it. Or if they do, hit later problems. Broken? That's a strong word. Tricky perhaps. Best avoided by novices, yes. But broken? Do they not work exactly as described in the fine manual? FWIW, I still see them a lot in the wild. > Anyway, lets start with a discussion of what rules give us > that SQL standard features do not? Even if the answer is nothing, if we do not implement the SQL standard feature yet (exhibit A: updateable views), it's a moot point unless the goal is to spur development of those features just so we can deprecate rules. - -- Greg Sabino Mullane g...@turnstep.com End Point Corporation http://www.endpoint.com/ PGP Key: 0x14964AC8 201210112251 http://biglumber.com/x/web?pk=2529DF6AB8F79407E94445B4BC9B906714964AC8 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iEYEAREDAAYFAlB3hx8ACgkQvJuQZxSWSshhwQCfdtKc7R2i0kz7eDUTXtik93k3 KyEAoK0dQVZsfcAD3OlHYDVhWMjst8QZ =xY2L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers