> I don't see all that going into core without a much bigger push than I > think people will buy. What people really want for all these is a > proper trending system, and that means graphs and dashboards and > bling--not a history table.
Well, I'm particularly thinking for autoconfiguration. For example, to set vacuum_freeze_min_age properly, you have to know the XID "burn rate" of the server, which is only available via history. I really don't want to be depending on a graphical monitoring utility to find these things out. > This whole approach has the assumption that things are going to fall off > sometimes. To expand on that theme for a second, right now I'm more > worried about the "99%" class of problems. Neither pg_stat_statements > nor this idea are very good for tracking the rare rogue problem down. > They're both aimed to make things that happen a lot more statistically > likely to be seen, by giving an easier UI to glare at them frequently. > That's not ideal, but I suspect really fleshing the whole queue consumer > -> table idea needs to happen to do much better. I'm just concerned that for some types of incidents, it would be much more than 1% *of what you want to look at* which fall off. For example, consider a server which does 95% reads at a very high rate, but has 2% of its writes cronically having lock waits. That's something you want to solve, but it seems fairly probably that these relatively infrequent queries would have fallen off the bottom of pg_stat_statements. Same thing with the relative handful of queries which do large on-disk sorts. The problem I'm worried about is that pg_stat_statements is designed to keep the most frequent queries, but sometimes the thing you really need to look at is not in the list of most frequent queries. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers