On 01/28/2013 02:15 AM, Robert Haas wrote: > > I am not sure whether it's really true that a capability mechanism > could "never really satisfy" anyone. It worked for Linux. I have no concern about using a capabilities approach for this, but I don't think Linux is a great example here. Linux's capabilities have been defined in a somewhat ad-hoc fashion and a huge amount of stuff is bundled into CAP_SYS_ADMIN. Several capabilities provide escalation routes to root / CAP_SYS_ADMIN. See:
https://lwn.net/Articles/486306/ http://dl.packetstormsecurity.net/papers/attack/exploiting_capabilities_the_dark_side.pdf There's nothing wrong with capability systems, it's just clear that they need to be designed, documented and maintained carefully. Adding ad-hoc capbilities is exactly the wrong route to take, and will lead us into the same mess Linux is in now. > But, I think event triggers are a credible answer, too, and they > certainly are more flexible. Yes, but with the caveat that leaving security design to user triggers will provide users with more opportunities for error - failure to think about schemas and search_path, testing role membership via some hacked-together queries instead of the built-in system information functions, failure to consider SECURITY DEFINER and the effect of session_user vs current_user, etc. Some docs on writing security triggers and some standard triggers in an extension module would go a long way to mitigating that, though. The appeal of the trigger based approach is that it means core doesn't land up needing CAP_CAN_EXECUTE_PLPERLU_ON_TUESDAYS_AFTER_MIDDAY_ON_A_FULL_MOON_IN_A_LEAPYEAR. -- Craig Ringer http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training & Services