On 13-04-22 11:46 PM, Anne Rosset wrote:
Thanks Steve.
I have read that a fix has been put in release 9.2.3 for this issue. Is that 
right?
Thanks,
Anne

No this issue is present in 9.0.13, 9.1.9 and 9.2.4 (as well as 9.2.3).

There is talk about fixing this for the next set of minor releases but I haven't yet seen a patch.

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Singer [mailto:st...@ssinger.info]
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 4:35 PM
To: Anne Rosset
Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Performance with the new security release?

On 13-04-22 04:41 PM, Anne Rosset wrote:
Hi Steve,
Yes I see these messages in our log. Is there a solution to this?
Thanks,
Anne
A manual analyze of the effected tables should work and give you updated 
statistics.  If your problem is just statistics then that should help.
A manual vacuum will , unfortunately, behave like the auto-vacuum. The only way 
to get vacuum past this (until this issue is fixed) is for
vacuum to be able to get that exclusive lock.   If there are times of
the day your database is less busy you might have some luck turning off 
auto-vacuum on these tables  and doing manual vacuums during those times.




-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Singer [mailto:st...@ssinger.info]
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 1:26 PM
To: Anne Rosset
Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Performance with the new security release?

On 13-04-22 04:15 PM, Anne Rosset wrote:
Hi Steve,
Thanks for your reply.
We are now running  9.0.13. Before it was 9.0.7.
How can I find out if we are running into this issue: "ie if
statistics are no longer being updated because analyze can't get the exclusive lock 
for truncation"?
This issue is discussed in the thread
http://www.postgresql.org/message-id/CAMkU=1xYXOJp=jLAASPdSAqab-HwhA_t
nRhy+JUe=4=b=v3...@mail.gmail.com

If your seeing messages in your logs of the form:

automatic vacuum of table XXX.YYY cannot (re)acquire exclusive lock for truncate 
scan"

then you might be hitting this issue.


I will dig into our logs to see for the query times.
Thanks,
Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Singer [mailto:st...@ssinger.info]
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 12:59 PM
To: Anne Rosset
Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Performance with the new security release?

On 13-04-22 01:38 PM, Anne Rosset wrote:
Hi,
We are seeing some overall performance degradation in our application
     since we installed the security release. Other commits were also
done at the same time in the application so we don't know yet if the
     degradation has any relationship with the security release.

     While we are digging into this, I would like to know if it is possible
     that the release has some impact on performance. After reading this
     "It was created as a side effect of a refactoring effort to make
     establishing new connections to a PostgreSQL server faster, and the
     associated code more maintainable.", I am thinking it is quite possible.

     Please let me know. Thanks,
Exactly which version of PostgreSQL are you running? (we released security 
update releases for multiple PG versions).  Also which version were you running 
before?

There were some changes to analyze/vacuum in the previous set of minor releases 
that could cause performance issues in some cases (ie if statistics are no 
longer being updated because analyze can't get the
exclusive lock for truncation).   There might be other unintended
performance related changes.

Are all queries taking longer or only some?  Can you find any sort of pattern 
that might help narrow the issue?

Steve

     Anne








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