On Tuesday 10 September 2002 11:50 pm, Stephan Szabo wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, snpe wrote:
> > On Tuesday 10 September 2002 07:46 pm, scott.marlowe wrote:
> > > What if it's a select for update?  IF that failed because of a timout
> > > on a lock, shouldn't the transaction fail?  Or a select into?  Either
> > > of those should make a transaction fail, and they're just selects.
> >
> > Ok.Any lock or update,delete, insert (and all ddl command) start
> > transaction (select for update, too), but simple select no.Select don't
> > change data and no transaction - this process cannot lost consistency
> > (any command with error too).
>
> At least in serializable isolation level you'll probably  get different
> results if a transaction commits between those two selects based on
> whether a transaction is started or not.  Should two serializable selects
> in the same session see the same snapshot when autocommit is off?
It is session, not transaction.My select don't change data and this is not 
transaction.

My abother question, agian : why error (bad typing) start transaction ?
regards
haris peco


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