On 02/24/2014 11:06 AM, Merlin Moncure wrote:
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Merlin Moncure <mmonc...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Merlin Moncure <mmonc...@gmail.com> wrote:
I still find the phrasing "as jsonb is more efficient for most
purposes" to be a bit off  Basically, the text json type is faster for
serialization/deserialization pattern (not just document preservation)
and jsonb is preferred when storing json and doing repeated
subdocument accesses.
Hm, I'm going to withdraw that.  I had done some testing of simple
deserialization (cast to text and the like) and noted that jsonb was
as much as 5x slower.  However, I just did some checking on
json[b]_populate_recordset though and it's pretty much a wash.
[sorry for noise on this].

Here's the use case coverage as I see it today:

CASE:                json    jsonb     hstore
Static document:     yes      poor      poor
Precise document:    yes      no        no
Serialization:       yes      no        no****
Deserialization:     poor***  yes*      no****
Repeated Access:     poor     yes       yes
Manipulation:        no       no**      yes
GIST/GIN searching:  no       no**      yes

notes:
* jsonb gets 'yes' for deserialization assuming andrew's 'two level'
deserialization fix goes in (otherwise 'poor').
** jsonb can't do this today, but presumably will be able to soon
*** 'poor' unless json type also gets the deserialization fix, then 'yes'.
**** hstore can deserialize hstore format, but will rely on json/jsonb
for deserializing json

'Static document' represents edge cases where the json is opaque to
the database but performance -- for example large map polygons.
'Precise document' represents cases where whitespace or key order is important.

Peter asked upthread how to access the various features.  Well, today,
it basically means a bit of nimble casting to different structures
depending on which particular features are important to you, which
IMNSHO is not bad at all as long as we understand that most people who
rely on jsonb will also need hstore for its searching and operators.
Down the line when hstore and jsonb are more flushed out it's going to
come down to an API style choice.




Frankly, a lot of the above doesn't make much sense to me. WTF is "Manipulation'?

Unless I see much more actual info on the tests being conducted it's just about impossible to comment. The performance assessment at this stage is simply anecdotal as far as I'm concerned.

populate_record() is likely to be a *very* poor point of comparison anyway, I would expect the performance numbers to be dominated by the input function calls for the object's component types, and that's going to be the same in both cases. If you want to prove something here you'll need to supply profiling numbers showing where it spends its time in each case.

Having had my schedule very seriously disrupted by the storm in the US South East a week or so ago, I am finally getting back to being able to devote some time to jsonb. I hope to have new patches available today or tomorrow at the latest.


cheers

andrew


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