On 10/11/14 23:37, Christopher Browne wrote:
On 8 November 2014 17:49, Robert Haas <robertmh...@gmail.com
 >
 > My impression, based on something Christopher Brown said a few years
 > ago, is that Slony's DDL trigger needs are largely satisfied by the
 > existing event trigger stuff.  It would be helpful to get confirmation
 > as to whether that's the case.

I'm not sure that a replication system that intends to do partial
replication
(e.g. - being selective of what objects are to be replicated) will
necessarily
want to use the CREATE event triggers to capture creates.

Several cases pop up with different answers:
a) I certainly don't want to replicate temporary tables
b) I almost certainly don't want to replicate unlogged tables
c) For "more ordinary" tables, I'm not sure I want to extend Slony
     to detect them and add them automatically, because there
     are annoying sub-cases

    c.1) If I'm working on data conversion, I may create not totally
          temporary tables that are nonetheless not worthy to replicate.
          (I'm working on such right now)

Long and short: it seems likely that I'd frequently NOT want all new tables
added to replication, at least not all of them, all the time.

I don't see how this is problem with using CREATE event triggers, just put logic in your trigger that handles this, you get the object identity of the object that is being created/altered so you can get any info about it you wish and you can easily filter however you want.

There are kind of two approaches:

a) Just capture the OIDs, and have replication go back later and grab
the table definition once the dust clears on the master

b) We need to capture ALL the DDL, whether CREATE or ALTER, and
forward it, altered to have fully qualified names on everything so that
we don't need to duplicate all the "set search_path" requests and
such.


This is basically what this patch gives you (actually both the canonized command and the identity)?

I suppose there's also a third...

c) Have a capability to put an event trigger function in place that makes
DDL requests fail.

That's more useful than you'd think; if, by default, we make them fail,
and with an error messages such as
   "DDL request failed as it was not submitted using slonik DDL TOOL"


You can do that already, it's even the example in the event trigger documentation.

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