On 2015/11/12 2:53, Robert Haas wrote:
On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 11:13 PM, Etsuro Fujita
<fujita.ets...@lab.ntt.co.jp> wrote:
To test this change, I think we should update the postgres_fdw patch so as
to add the RecheckForeignScan.

Having said that, as I said previously, I don't see much value in adding the
callback routine, to be honest.  I know KaiGai-san considers that that would
be useful for custom joins, but I don't think that that would be useful even
for foreign joins, because I think that in case of foreign joins, the
practical implementation of that routine in FDWs would be to create a
secondary plan and execute that plan by performing ExecProcNode, as my patch
does [1].  Maybe I'm missing something, though.

I really don't see why you're fighting on this point.  Making this a
generic feature will require only a few extra lines of code for FDW
authors.  If this were going to cause some great inconvenience for FDW
authors, then I'd agree it isn't worth it.  But I see zero evidence
that this is actually the case.

Really? I think there would be not a little burden on an FDW author; when postgres_fdw delegates to the subplan to the remote server, for example, it would need to create a remote join query by looking at tuples possibly fetched and stored in estate->es_epqTuple[], send the query and receive the result during the callback routine. Furthermore, what I'm most concerned about is that wouldn't be efficient. So, my question about that approach is whether FDWs really do some thing like that during the callback routine, instead of performing a secondary join plan locally. As I said before, I know that KaiGai-san considers that that approach would be useful for custom joins. But I see zero evidence that there is a good use-case for an FDW.

From my point of view I'm now
thinking this solution has two parts:

(1) Let foreign scans have inner and outer subplans.  For this
purpose, we only need one, but it's no more work to enable both, so we
may as well.  If we had some reason, we could add a list of subplans
of arbitrary length, but there doesn't seem to be an urgent need for
that.

(2) Add a recheck callback.

If the foreign data wrapper wants to adopt the solution you're
proposing, the recheck callback can call
ExecProcNode(outerPlanState(node)).  I don't think this should end up
being more than a few lines of code, although of course we should
verify that.  So no problem: postgres_fdw and any other FDWs where the
remote side is a database can easily delegate to a subplan, and
anybody who wants to do something else still can.

What is not to like about that?




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