On Thursday 13 February 2003 18:41, Vince Vielhaber wrote: > On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Lamar Owen wrote: > > PostgreSQL is as critical as PHP, Apache, or whatever other package is > > being backended by PostgreSQL. If the package is provided by the > > distributor, consider it part of the OS. If it isn't, well, it isn't.
> You completely miss my point, but lately you've been real good at that. No, Vince, I understand your point. But understand mine: it does matter who installed it. > Note, I'm not even including an MTA here. I said BASIC OPERATION. > If a package is not critical as I just outlined, it shouldn't matter who > installed it. 'Critical' is in the eye of the admin of the system in question. For my servers, if, for instance, sshd doesn't come up, then there's a major problem, as they are all headless. If the webserver doesn't come up, I have other problems, as OpenACS is mission-critical here. So what's critical is a question for the individual sysadmin. So, to continue your point, what is 'critical' to the 'basic operation' of the system shouldn't pollute /etc. So, let's eliminate the /etc/mail, /etc/samba, /etc/xinetd.d, /etc/X11, /etc/httpd, and the other subtrees foung in at least Red Hat 8. While we're at it, many other files in /etc need to go: named.conf for one. It depends on what you consider 'critical'. PostgreSQL is at least as critical on my systems as some of the other things that already 'pollute' /etc. > After the last go around with you Lamar, this will be my last response > to you on this. Aw Vince, I don't know what your problem is with conflicting opinions. But that's your choice. And Open Source is about _choice_. You are free to admin your systems your way, and I'm free to do so my way. And all's well. -- Lamar Owen WGCR Internet Radio 1 Peter 4:11 ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster