2016/08/10 23:22 "Bruce Momjian" <br...@momjian.us>:
>
> On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 05:14:52PM +0300, Alexander Korotkov wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 5:37 AM, Bruce Momjian <br...@momjian.us> wrote:
> >
> >     On Tue, Aug  9, 2016 at 02:06:40AM +0000, Tsunakawa, Takayuki wrote:
> >     > I hope wait event monitoring will be on by default even if the
overhead
> >     is not
> >     > almost zero, because the data needs to be readily available for
faster
> >     > troubleshooting.  IMO, the benefit would be worth even 10%
overhead.  If
> >     you
> >     > disable it by default because of overhead, how can we convince
users to
> >     enable
> >     > it in production systems to solve some performance problem?  I’m
afraid
> >     severe
> >     > users would say “we can’t change any setting that might cause more
> >     trouble, so
> >     > investigate the cause with existing information.”
> >
> >     If you want to know why people are against enabling this monitoring
by
> >     default, above is the reason.  What percentage of people do you
think
> >     would be willing to take a 10% performance penalty for monitoring
like
> >     this?  I would bet very few, but the argument above doesn't seem to
> >     address the fact it is a small percentage.
> >
> >
> > Just two notes from me:
> >
> > 1) 10% overhead from monitoring wait events is just an idea without any
proof
> > so soon.
> > 2) We already have functionality which trades insight into database
with way
> > more huge overhead.  auto_explain.log_analyze = true can slowdown
queries *in
> > times*.  Do you think we should remove it?
>
> The point is not removing it, the point is whether
> auto_explain.log_analyze = true should be enabled by default, and I
> think no one wants to do that.

Agreed.

If people are facing with some difficult situation in terms of performance,
they may accept some (one-time) overhead to resolve the issue.
But if they don't have (recognize) any issue, they may not.

That's one of the realities according to my experiences.

Regards,

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