On Nov 19, 2016 15:33, "Andrew Dunstan" <and...@dunslane.net> wrote:
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> On 11/19/2016 07:36 AM, Stephen Frost wrote:
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>> Magnus,
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>> * Magnus Hagander (mag...@hagander.net) wrote:
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>>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 1:07 AM, Stephen Frost <sfr...@snowman.net>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>> * Magnus Hagander (mag...@hagander.net) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It would make the URLs actually short, but as mentioned upthread, that
>>>>> wouldn't work at all if offline. So it'd be a tradeoff between those,
but
>>>>> so are pretty much all other options that don't include the full
>>>>
>>>> message-id.
>>>>
>>>> This is a bit of a crazy idea, but in the new list system, couldn't we
>>>> add a header which includes "our" surrogate message-id? Or possibly
the
>>>> entire URL to the message, and maybe the URL for the entire thread?
>>>
>>> I'd rather not tie those systems in that tightly. I think they are much
>>> better off being de-coupled.
>>
>> I get that, but...
>>
>>> That said, what we could do is invent our own "id". We could either use
a
>>> separate surrogate key, or we could do the sha-1 hash of the messageid.
And
>>> stick that in a header, which could then be searched for both locally
and
>>> remotely.
>>
>> Yeah, that's a good thought too. I think we'd need to use a SHA1 to
>> avoid collisions which means that it'll be a bit longer than if we used
>> an actual ID, but it shouldn't be *too* long.
>>
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> I can think of at least one scenario where you might not easily have
access to any invented ID - you're the author and you have mailing list
me-too turned off, so you don't have anything that the mailing list has
inserted. I honestly think we should just stick with the Message-ID value
and get over the ugliness.
>
> Putting the clickable URL in a header("X-Archive-Link" ?) is a good idea,
though. Using my MUA (Thunderbird) that would make it as simple to get as
View Source (Ctrl-U) and a simple C&P, which would make committers' lives
easy. I bet others might appreciate it too.
As a thunderbird user you might be interested in something like
https://github.com/mhagander/pgarchives. I don't know if it works with
modern versions of thunderbird, but hopefully it does. And would be more
convenient than the view source way..
/Magnus
