Hi Michael,

Thanks for reviewing!

On 8/29/17 9:44 PM, Michael Paquier wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 10:59 PM, David Steele <da...@pgmasters.net> wrote:
>>
>> Attached is the 9.6 patch.  It required a bit more work in func.sgml
>> than I was expecting so have a close look at that.  The rest was mostly
>> removing irrelevant hunks.
> 
> +     switch to the next WAL segment.  On a standby, it is not possible to
> +     automatically switch WAL segments, so you may wish to run
> +     <function>pg_switch_wal</function> on the primary to perform a manual
> +     switch. The reason for the switch is to arrange for
> [...]
> +    WAL segments have been archived. If write activity on the primary
> is low, it
> +    may be useful to run <function>pg_switch_wal</> on the primary in order 
> to
> +    trigger an immediate segment switch of the last required WAL
> It seems to me that both portions are wrong. There is no archiving
> wait on standbys for 9.6, and 
I think its clearly stated here that pg_stop_backup() does not wait for
WAL to archive on a standby.  Even, it is very important for the backup
routine to make sure that all the WAL *is* archived.

> pg_stop_backup triggers by itself the
> segment switch, so saying that enforcing pg_switch_wal on the primary
> is moot. 

pg_stop_backup() does not perform a WAL switch on the standby which is
what this sentence is referring to.  I have separated this section out
into a new paragraph to (hopefully) make it clearer.

> pg_switch_xlog has been renamed to pg_switch_wal in PG10, so
> the former name applies.

Whoops!

New patch is attached.

Thanks,
-- 
-David
da...@pgmasters.net
diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/backup.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/backup.sgml
index 03c0dbf1cd..fd696c38db 100644
--- a/doc/src/sgml/backup.sgml
+++ b/doc/src/sgml/backup.sgml
@@ -889,8 +889,11 @@ SELECT pg_start_backup('label', false, false);
 <programlisting>
 SELECT * FROM pg_stop_backup(false);
 </programlisting>
-     This terminates the backup mode and performs an automatic switch to
-     the next WAL segment.  The reason for the switch is to arrange for
+     This terminates backup mode. On a primary, it also performs an automatic
+     switch to the next WAL segment.  On a standby, it is not possible to
+     automatically switch WAL segments, so you may wish to run
+     <function>pg_switch_xlog</function> on the primary to perform a manual
+     switch. The reason for the switch is to arrange for
      the last WAL segment file written during the backup interval to be
      ready to archive.
     </para>
@@ -908,7 +911,7 @@ SELECT * FROM pg_stop_backup(false);
      Once the WAL segment files active during the backup are archived, you are
      done.  The file identified by <function>pg_stop_backup</>'s first return
      value is the last segment that is required to form a complete set of
-     backup files.  If <varname>archive_mode</> is enabled,
+     backup files.  On a primary, if <varname>archive_mode</> is enabled,
      <function>pg_stop_backup</> does not return until the last segment has
      been archived.
      Archiving of these files happens automatically since you have
@@ -924,6 +927,13 @@ SELECT * FROM pg_stop_backup(false);
      <function>pg_stop_backup</> terminates because of this your backup
      may not be valid.
     </para>
+
+    <para>
+     Note that on a standby <function>pg_stop_backup</> does not wait for
+     WAL segments to be archived so the backup process must ensure that all WAL
+     segments required for the backup are successfully archived.
+    </para>
+
    </listitem>
   </orderedlist>
     </para>
@@ -932,9 +942,9 @@ SELECT * FROM pg_stop_backup(false);
     <title>Making an exclusive low level backup</title>
     <para>
      The process for an exclusive backup is mostly the same as for a
-     non-exclusive one, but it differs in a few key steps. It does not allow
-     more than one concurrent backup to run, and there can be some issues on
-     the server if it crashes during the backup. Prior to PostgreSQL 9.6, this
+     non-exclusive one, but it differs in a few key steps. This type of backup
+     can only be taken on a primary and does not allow concurrent backups.
+     Prior to <productname>PostgreSQL</> 9.6, this
      was the only low-level method available, but it is now recommended that
      all users upgrade their scripts to use non-exclusive backups if possible.
     </para>
@@ -992,6 +1002,11 @@ SELECT pg_start_backup('label', true);
      <xref linkend="backup-lowlevel-base-backup-data"> for things to
      consider during this backup.
     </para>
+    <para>
+      Note that if the server crashes during the backup it may not be
+      possible to restart until the <literal>backup_label</> file has been
+      manually deleted from the <envar>PGDATA</envar> directory.
+    </para>
    </listitem>
    <listitem>
     <para>
diff --git a/doc/src/sgml/func.sgml b/doc/src/sgml/func.sgml
index 8482601294..01ebfb8d90 100644
--- a/doc/src/sgml/func.sgml
+++ b/doc/src/sgml/func.sgml
@@ -18070,11 +18070,22 @@ postgres=# select pg_start_backup('label_goes_here');
     <function>pg_start_backup</>. In a non-exclusive backup, the contents of
     the <filename>backup_label</> and <filename>tablespace_map</> are returned
     in the result of the function, and should be written to files in the
-    backup (and not in the data directory).
+    backup (and not in the data directory).  When executed on a primary
+    <function>pg_stop_backup</> will wait for WAL to be archived when archiving
+    is enabled.
    </para>
 
    <para>
-    The function also creates a backup history file in the transaction log
+    On a standby <function>pg_stop_backup</> will return immediately without
+    waiting so it's important to verify that all required WAL segments have 
been
+    archived. If write activity on the primary is low, it may be useful to run
+    <function>pg_switch_xlog</> on the primary in order to trigger an immediate
+    segment switch of the last required WAL.
+   </para>
+
+   <para>
+    When executed on a primary, the function also creates a backup history file
+    in the write-ahead log
     archive area. The history file includes the label given to
     <function>pg_start_backup</>, the starting and ending transaction log 
locations for
     the backup, and the starting and ending times of the backup.  The return
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