Tommi Maekitalo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I installed 7.4beta5, created a data-dir and tried to start postgresql with 
> pg_ctl without initdb. As expected, this will fail. But pg_ctl tells me 
> "postmaster successfully started", after a fatal error, which looks very 
> confusing. When I use -l for specifying a logfile, I don't even see the 
> error, but only the success-message.

If you don't use -w, then pg_ctl doesn't wait around to see whether the
postmaster started or not.  It'd probably be a good idea for it to issue
a less positive message in this case, maybe only "postmaster launched".

I also wonder why -w isn't the default.

                        regards, tom lane

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