Andrew Dunstan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> We can also try to come up with a better scheme for verifying that we 
> have started properly - I will think about that.

There have been previous suggestions for a "pg_ping" functionality, in
which you could simply send a packet to the postmaster and it would
answer back if it's open for business.  You can approximate this by
sending a deliberately invalid login packet, but it's not quite the same
thing.  I think there were some concerns about security though; check
the archives.

In any case, a C-code pg_ctl could eliminate most of the problems
directly, simply because it wouldn't have to rely on psql.

                        regards, tom lane

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