[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You know, I don't think a lot of people "get" the issues I was describing, or maybe they don't believe it, I don't know, but, I think that it would be a useful contrib project to create an 'analyze_special('table', 'column', 'method')' function that does a better job at calculating the stats for table that contain multiple trend waveforms. A separate function will probably work well as the trends within the data probably only apply to specific rows.

I've done something similar, but simpler for the Census/TIGER data.

If you loaded each TIGER file sequentially, like I did, the data
was all grouped by county when it was loaded - so basically all
the geographical columns (zip, county, state, census-tract) are
actually grouped tightly on disk -- though ANALYZE can't see this
because they're not strictly ascending or descending.

Since I merely observed the geospatial columns were all
clustered pretty well, I merely set the correlation
value to the same pretty large value for all the
geometric rows with a bunch of statements like this:

  update pg_statistic
     set stanumbers3[1] = 0.8
   where starelid = 31412043
     and staattnum=3;

Instead of a complicated analyze function, how about just
letting the user "tell" the optimizer that a column is
clustered well with a function like:

 force_correlation_stat('schema', 'table', 'column', 'value')

would actually work well for your data.  Since you
know your distinct values lay on a relatively small
number of pages if you merely did:
 force_correlation('tiger','rt1','zipl',0.8);
 force_correlation('tiger','rt1','statel',0.8);
 force_correlation('tiger','rt1','countyl',0.8);
the optimizer would then see that not many disk
pages would need to be hit for a single zip code.


It's interesting, because I don't think it needs to calculate a perfect
representation of the data so much as better clue to its nature for the
optimizer.

Indeed. Using the very arbitrary number "0.8" for the correlation, for all the geographic-related columns in the tiger data, the optimizer guessed a good plan almost every time on my company's 200GB geographical database.

When I get the time (or can get someone to pay me to do it) I'm going to
try it.

I still suspect that the correct way to do it would not be to use the single "correlation", but 2 stats - one for estimating how sequential/random accesses would be; and one for estimating the number of pages that would be hit. I think the existing correlation does well for the first estimate; but for many data sets, poorly for the second type.

If you want to start a contrib project that looks into additional
stats that may help, I might be interested.

  Ron

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