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> The purpose of the new system views... As long as they are in a separate schema (like information_schema, but hopefully not as long). pg_views? pg_info? information_skema? :) > But if you think that nobody needs these views, it's because you > haven't had much contact with end users lately. Well, who really *does* need these? After all, end users should be using an interface of some sort. (DBD::Pg, phpPgAdmin, psql, etc). It's the job of the people writing those interfaces to know the system catalogs well and present them to the users in a pretty fashion. If people want an "easy" way to look up the information, they use an interface. If not, they should learn the system catalogs. /devilsadvocate - -- Greg Sabino Mullane [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key: 0x14964AC8 200505050632 http://biglumber.com/x/web?pk=2529DF6AB8F79407E94445B4BC9B906714964AC8 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFCefgSvJuQZxSWSsgRAlhmAKCXhqS9b5n5PgmWutFAzR6D5rg5SQCfQpuL qpOQ/PBghtBbI8RkJ2tXM7s= =0d0+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings