Dave Page wrote: > > Also, what happens if you find that the contrib package > > doesn't do everything you need? You'll be stuck for another > > PG release cycle, whereas rejiggering a plperl function that > > pgadmin is defining for itself is no problem. > > pgAdmin I used to create helper functions and views on the server, and > not only were they a *real* pain in the neck to manage, but they were > also the most often complained about 'feature' of pgAdmin, to the extent > that when pgAdmin II was written, rule number #1 was 'it must offer 100% > functionality on a clean, standard database with no server side > objects'. In pga1 it even got to the stage that I wrote a cleanup wizard > to allow ppl to remove the stuff that was created. We also had problems > with people who had limited access to their servers (because they were > ISP hosted etc). I've not even persuaded hub.org to install pl/pgsql for > the postgresql.org sites for example - I can't imagine the response I'd > get if I asked for pl/perlu!! > > This is primarily why we want to get the functionality into the backend. > Secondary to that, it will also allow phpPgAdmin and other tools to > offer the same functionality. It could be argued of course, that a > contrib module violates our standard database rule (which it does), but > it does at least allow us to get some standard code into the > distribution, in a way that /might/ be compatible with the feature > freeze, with a view to full integration in the next cycle. As Bruce has > seen, this is some pretty nice functionality that Andreas has added to > pga3, and is one of the few areas that we lag behind SQL Server etc. in > on the management front.
Ouch, that is a powerful argument! The big problem is that we are designing features a month after feature freeze. Not that the ideas weren't around before feature freeze, but they are still not solid from a community agreement perspective. Let's get the logging working and then figure out what to do, OK? -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073 ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
