On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Tom Lane <t...@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
> Chris <li...@deksai.com> writes:
>> I have a lot of centos servers which are running postgres.  Postgres isn't 
>> used
>> that heavily on any of them, but lately, the stats collector process keeps
>> causing tons of IO load.  It seems to happen only on servers with centos 5.
>
> Say, I just realized that both of you are complaining about stats
> collector overhead on centos 5 servers.  I hadn't been thinking in terms
> of OS-specific causes, but maybe that is what we need to consider.
> Can you tell me the exact kernel versions you are seeing these problems
> with?

uname -a says "... 2.6.18-92.1.13.el5 #1 SMP ... x86_64", and it's CentOS 5.2.

I'm not sure whether this is related to the stats collector problems
on this machine, but I noticed alarming table bloat in the catalog
tables pg_attribute, pg_attrdef, pg_depend, and pg_type. Perhaps this
has happened slowly over the past few months, but I discovered the
bloat when I ran the query from:
http://pgsql.tapoueh.org/site/html/news/20080131.bloat.html

on the most-active database on this server (OID 16389 from the
pgstat.stat I sent in). See attached table_bloat.txt. The autovacuum
settings for this server haven't been tweaked from the default; they
probably should have been, given the heavy bulk updates/inserts done.
Maybe there's another cause for this extreme catalog bloat, besides
the weak autovacuum settings, though.

Table sizes, according to pg_size_pretty(pg_total_relation_size(...)):
 * pg_attribute: 145 GB
 * pg_attrdef: 85 GB
 * pg_depend: 38 GB
 * pg_type: 3465 MB

I'll try to send in strace outputs later today.

Josh
  schemaname   |       tablename       | reltuples | relpages |  otta  |  
tbloat  | wastedpages | wastedbytes | wastedsize |                     iname    
                  | ituples  | ipages  | iotta  | ibloat  | wastedipages | 
wastedibytes | wastedisize 
---------------+-----------------------+-----------+----------+--------+----------+-------------+-------------+------------+------------------------------------------------+----------+---------+--------+---------+--------------+--------------+-------------
 pg_catalog    | pg_attribute          |         0 | 12178069 |      0 |      
0.0 |    12178069 | 99762741248 | 93 GB      | pg_attribute_relid_attnam_index  
              |        0 | 4525199 |      0 |     0.0 |      4525199 |  
37070430208 | 35 GB
 pg_catalog    | pg_attribute          |         0 | 12178069 |      0 |      
0.0 |    12178069 | 99762741248 | 93 GB      | pg_attribute_relid_attnum_index  
              |        0 |  848842 |      0 |     0.0 |       848842 |   
6953713664 | 6632 MB
 pg_catalog    | pg_attrdef            |       767 |  8789472 |     30 | 
292982.4 |     8789442 | 72003108864 | 67 GB      | pg_attrdef_oid_index        
                   |      767 |  361513 |     28 | 12911.2 |       361485 |   
2961285120 | 2824 MB
 pg_catalog    | pg_attrdef            |       767 |  8789472 |     30 | 
292982.4 |     8789442 | 72003108864 | 67 GB      | 
pg_attrdef_adrelid_adnum_index                 |      767 |  359805 |     28 | 
12850.2 |       359777 |   2947293184 | 2811 MB
<snip one bloated user table>
 pg_catalog    | pg_depend             |     14270 |  1890691 |     98 |  
19292.8 |     1890593 | 15487737856 | 14 GB      | pg_depend_depender_index     
                  |    14270 | 1649557 |     65 | 25377.8 |      1649492 |  
13512638464 | 13 GB
 pg_catalog    | pg_depend             |     14270 |  1890691 |     98 |  
19292.8 |     1890593 | 15487737856 | 14 GB      | pg_depend_reference_index    
                  |    14270 | 1371522 |     65 | 21100.3 |      1371457 |  
11234975744 | 10 GB
<snip some more user tables>
 pg_catalog    | pg_type               |      1333 |   385445 |      31 |  
12433.7 |      385414 |  3157311488 | 3011 MB    | pg_type_oid_index            
                  |     1333 |   54965 |     24 |  2290.2 |        54941 |    
450076672 | 429 MB
 pg_catalog    | pg_type               |      1333 |   385445 |      31 |  
12433.7 |      385414 |  3157311488 | 3011 MB    | pg_type_typname_nsp_index    
                  |     1333 |    3129 |     24 |   130.4 |         3105 |     
25436160 | 24 MB
<snip>

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