How about this? It should spit out the same number, but be quite a bit
quicker at it.  Untested of course...


select  t.thread_id,
                t.forum_id,
                t.thread_title,
                t.thread_owner,
                t.thread_owner_id,
                t.date_created,
                t.thread_hits,
                t.poem_reference,
                t.bArchived,
                count, maxdate
   from  fbof_thread t
   LEFT OUTER JOIN 
         (select thread_id
               , count(msg_id) as count
               , max(date_created) as maxdate
            from msg
        group by thread_id
        ) as tab ON m.thread_id = t.thread_id
      where   t.forum_id = 1
        and             t.bArchived = 0
        and             t.bSticky = 0
   order by        t.date_created desc
        
> can anyone point out to me where I'm going wrong here?  I can't seem to make 
> it faster for the life of me....  I've tried adding indices on all the main 
> fields etc but nada.  I'm not subscribed the list currently so please reply 
> to my address as well as the list.

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