Saturday 27 December 2003 13:50
> This analysis is nonsense ... system catalog operations do not do the
> same kinds of permission checks as user queries do.  Furthermore, if
> he'd not had permissions to create users, the initial CREATE USER
> command would have failed, and so would CREATE DATABASE (since it would
> then be specifying a nonexistent owner name).

The CREATE USER *did* fail, didn't it?  I'm sorry if I was inaccurate in my 
response, but I don't believe I was - I think maybe we're just interpreting 
the E-Mail two different ways.  Devrim, if you could copy and paste exactly 
what you're doing and exactly where the errors appear in a psql session, that 
would be most helpful.

I did nat say that the user had to be a superuser, only that the user had to 
have createuser permission in order to CREATE USER.  And the last sentence of 
the first paragraph may not be syntactically accurate because I am not 
familiar with PostgreSQL's internals, but that is the effect of creating a 
user, as I said in the second paragraph.

> My guess is that Devrim interpreted your suggestion as telling him to
> make the created user (tdmsoftmailserveruser) a superuser, which would
> naturally suppress any and all permissions failures for operations
> executed by that user.  That's hardly a reasonable answer to his problem
> though.

That is *NOT* what I suggested at all.

> As to what his real problem is, I dunno, but I'd like to find out.

Sure.

Vertu sæll,

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