> Well, perhaps you will one day and a developer will hose your server > with a "accidental" cross join and then you will understand.
Hehe :)) hey man, that's what testing and code review is all about (dev teams still do that don't they?) Accidental cartesians don't get to production ;) Regards, Anthony -----Original Message----- From: Daryl Richter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 11:35 AM To: Anthony Molinaro Cc: pgsql-sql@postgresql.org Subject: Re: [SQL] how to do 'deep queries'? Anthony Molinaro wrote: > Daryl, > > >>Whether you feel that is unnecessary or not, it *is* the ANSI Standard > > >>and is thus, by definition, "how queries should be written." > > > I disagree 100%. Oracle and db2 introduced window functions years > before > Ansi added them. Should we not have used them? It absurd to avoid using > a feature cuz it's not ansi. > Of course it would be absurd, I have not suggested otherwise. Joins are not a *new* feature. > Honestly, Don't be a slave to ansi, you miss out on all the great > vendor specific functionality *that you're already paying for* > > >>it was added to make the *intention* of the query clearer. > > > More clearer to whom? > > Certainly not developers who have been working for many years > using the old syntax. > > The intention of the old syntax is perfect. Realize that the problem is > not the old syntax, the problem is the watered down database field > today. > I see this more and more with each interview I conduct looking > for dba's and developers. > I generally agree with your assessment of the state of database knowledge (particularly re developers). It is, however, the reality we live in. [snipped nostalgia and back-patting] > I've never worked in a place that used ANSI only syntax and I've never > had a problem with clarity nor any developers I've worked with. > So, I don't at all get what you're saying... > Old style is short and sweet and perfect. > Ansi dumbed it down, that's the bottom line. > And for people who've been developing for sometime, > It's wholly unnecessary. > Well, perhaps you will one day and a developer will hose your server with a "accidental" cross join and then you will understand. But hopefully not. ;) > Regards, > Anthony > [rest snipped] -- Daryl Director of Technology (( Brandywine Asset Management ) ( "Expanding the Science of Global Investing" ) ( http://www.brandywine.com )) ---------------------------(end of broadcast)--------------------------- TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq
