Takes a while indeed.



On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:53 AM, kilon <theki...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Yeah indeed that is worse.
>
> But I have to confese my experience with both smalltalk and lisp (common
> lisp) has started with a "so what ?"  experience. When I opened squeak ,
> the
> IDE looked like any other ide I used, the guis was ugly, morph halos looked
> kinda weird. I did not understan why all the ranting that everything is a
> smalltalk object and of course we should not forget the usual "If your
> language is all that great why people are not even aware of it".
>
> Especially the last one , I have been coding for fun for more than 24 years
> now and never , absolutely never heard of smalltalk before. Actually the
> reason I discovered smalltalk was because of lisper I was chating via irc 1
> + years ago. I was reading how awesome common lisp is , but of course I did
> hate all that parentheses. However I did decide to give it a serious try ,
> but for me the barrier was emacs and text based interfaces, I was always a
> fan of GUIs, so I was chating with him saying to him how I would love to do
> live coding and visual coding and he replied "hey did you try squeak and
> smalltalk ?" , I replied back "whats that ?" and the rest is history.
>
> So to be fair he did tell me what the big deal was so I knew when I tried
> squeak that it was very special. Because if I have tried it by accident
> most
> likely I would have taken the same route as you and even never come back to
> it.
>
> The problem with smalltalk and lisp is that it takes a lot of time to
> realise the benefits of using such unpopular languages.  Its difficult to
> kick out the "whats the big deal ?" attitude.
>
>
>
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