Doru, What do you understand with 'levels'? Is it referenced projects? Perhaps this is the difference I did not immediately extract from your description. Re-reading it with this focus makes the difference clear I think.
My use of the toolbox is indeed to generate or update a version for a single project where all 'nested' projects are referenced by project version. As I understand it, the snapshot version is a 'flattened' version containing all packages? I think I get it now. thanks Johan On 24 Jul 2013, at 12:45, Tudor Girba <tu...@tudorgirba.com> wrote: > Perhaps I missed something in the toolbox, but as far as I know you cannot > create a version of a configuration that is composed of multiple sub-projects > nested multiple levels deep. > > Could you describe the way you are using the Metacello Toolbox? > > Doru > > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Johan Brichau <jo...@inceptive.be> wrote: > Hi Doru, Stef, > > May I ask what the difference is with the version generation and updating > methods found in MetacelloToolbox ? I want to understand, because I am > currently using these of MetacelloToolbox to do the things you describe. > > Cheers! > Johan > > On 24 Jul 2013, at 09:52, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.duca...@inria.fr> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 24, 2013, at 9:11 AM, Tudor Girba <tu...@tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> On Jul 24, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.duca...@inria.fr> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> On Jul 23, 2013, at 11:51 PM, Dale K. Henrichs > >>> <dale.henri...@gemtalksystems.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Stef, > >>>> > >>>> I haven't completely wrapped my brain around what SnapshotCello does so > >>>> I don't have an informed opinion ... the fact that you found a need to > >>>> invent SnapshotCello does speak volumes to the fact that there is a need > >>>> that is going unmet:). > >>>> > >>>> However, I don't like the fact that you end up sending a non-spec > >>>> message to make this work (#populateSpec:with:). Tools like Versioner > >>>> will not be able to rewrite a method like this correctly so it is a less > >>>> than satisfactory workaround to the method literal limit. > >>> Indeed. May be in the future we could recreate a simple compliant spec > >>> driven method by interpreting the > >>> existing configuration trees but this requires some work. > >> > >> I do not understand this point. What do you mean by "interpreting the > >> configuration trees"? > > > > I mean going over the configurations with dependencies to recreate the tree > > structure but with versions. > > May be this is not needed because for versions we do not need dependencies > > so just group them per configurations. > > > >> > >> Doru > >> > >>>> > >>>> With that said it _is_ performing a useful function ... > >>>> > >>>> I have recently come up with an approach to addressing the method > >>>> literal limit from a slightly different angle and I would assume that > >>>> SnapshotCello could be recast to use this "approved approach" when the > >>>> new techinique becomes available. At that time it would make sense to > >>>> roll the SnapshotCello funtionality into the MetacelloToolBox... > >>>> > >>>> Dale > >>>> > >>>> [1] > >>>> http://forum.world.st/Loading-problem-in-Seaside-tp4699965p4700161.html > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> | From: "Stéphane Ducasse" <stephane.duca...@inria.fr> > >>>> | To: "Moose-related development" <moose-...@iam.unibe.ch> > >>>> | Cc: "Any question about pharo is welcome" > >>>> <pharo-us...@lists.pharo.org>, "Pharo Development List" > >>>> | <pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> > >>>> | Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 2:17:50 PM > >>>> | Subject: [Moose-dev] Re: [ann] snapshotcello > >>>> | > >>>> | Nice to see SnapshotCello coming to live. May be it should be > >>>> | integrated to Metacello. > >>>> | Because everybody may need this cool feature. > >>>> | > >>>> | Stef > >>>> | > >>>> | On Jul 23, 2013, at 10:43 PM, Tudor Girba <tu...@tudorgirba.com> > >>>> | wrote: > >>>> | > >>>> | > Hi, > >>>> | > > >>>> | > Stef and I developed Snapshotcello, a little utility that enables > >>>> | > you to freeze a snapshot of a given configuration based on what is > >>>> | > already loaded in your current image. > >>>> | > > >>>> | > The idea is simple. You develop against the latest versions of all > >>>> | > packages, and commit your changes for each package. When you are > >>>> | > ready for a release, you assemble your image, and generate a > >>>> | > snapshot version that can be reloaded later. > >>>> | > > >>>> | > Here is an example of how it can work to take a snapshot of a > >>>> | > development version: > >>>> | > Snapshotcello new > >>>> | > configurationClass: ConfigurationOfMoose; > >>>> | > configurationVersion: #development; > >>>> | > publishVersion: '4.8-snapshot' > >>>> | > > >>>> | > You can find more details here: > >>>> | > > >>>> http://www.tudorgirba.com/blog/snapshotcello-take-a-snapshot-when-you-re-ready > >>>> | > > >>>> | > You can get the code at: > >>>> | > Gofer new > >>>> | > smalltalkhubUser: 'girba' project: 'Snapshotcello'; > >>>> | > package: 'ConfigurationOfSnapshotcello'; > >>>> | > load. > >>>> | > (Smalltalk globals at: #ConfigurationOfSnapshotcello) > >>>> | > loadDevelopment > >>>> | > > >>>> | > Cheers, > >>>> | > Doru > >>>> | > > >>>> | > -- > >>>> | > www.tudorgirba.com > >>>> | > > >>>> | > "Every successful trip needs a suitable vehicle." > >>>> | > > >>>> | > > >>>> | > > >>>> | > > >>>> | > > >>>> | > _______________________________________________ > >>>> | > Moose-dev mailing list > >>>> | > moose-...@iam.unibe.ch > >>>> | > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > >>>> | > >>>> | > >>>> | _______________________________________________ > >>>> | Moose-dev mailing list > >>>> | moose-...@iam.unibe.ch > >>>> | https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > >>>> | > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Moose-dev mailing list > >>> moose-...@iam.unibe.ch > >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > >> > >> -- > >> www.tudorgirba.com > >> > >> "From an abstract enough point of view, any two things are similar." > > > > > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow"
