> 1. Creating separate powerful organisation that will move in one direction > will give good results in a longer time, but the beginning will be tuff.
I do not think that we should do it. We were frustated in the past that we could not participate then we participate and ESUG was nice to handle the billing part. So I would let run it now that marcus and luc spent the time to iron everything. Now it would be good that people stop to piss on us. > 2. I wouldn’t call it a “Pharo” organisation. e.g. Amber is cool too, no? In > fact it should be some group that want’s to do rings for real and not just > state that they are writing a code in Smalltalk. indeed. I propose that just to see how far Janko was going. I think that it would be a stupid move. This is why we stopped organizing a Pharo specific conference this year. But on the other hand this is too easy to say that ESUG is biaised. And this is not good from an energy stand point. But some people are better at ranting than doing. Stef
