On 21 Mar 2014, at 15:37, Johan Brichau <jo...@inceptive.be> wrote:

> Yes, but that is incorrect and just a workaround to not load the latest 
> version in Pharo 2.
> 1.1.6 is also intended for Pharo2!

why?

> 
> Johan
> 
>> On 21 Mar 2014, at 14:32, Esteban Lorenzano <esteba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> adding:
>> 
>> ConfigurationOfGrease>>#stable: spec
>>   <symbolicVersion: #'stable'>
>> 
>>   spec for: #'common' version: '1.1.6'.
>>   spec for: #'pharo2.x' version: '1.1.5'
>> 
>> makes voyage *and* seaside load fine in pharo2.0.
>> 
>> Esteban
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 21 Mar 2014, at 13:37, Johan Brichau <jo...@inceptive.be> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> If both configurations reference the same Grease version, there will not 
>>>>> be a problem.
>>>>> 
>>>> Can you do that? I don’t have commit rights for those repos.
>>> 
>>> No, I am not an author of either projects.... I guess it's best if Magritte 
>>> references Grease #stable. Though I concur with your remark regarding 
>>> symbolic versions, it also becomes hell if different projects reference 
>>> different versions of Grease, just because those were the stable versions 
>>> when they were created (which is actually the problem here).
>>> 
>>> I'm on iPad only right now, so can't help you any further before tonight.
>>> 
>>>>> However, this is a more fundamental problem. Metacello first loads 1.1.5 
>>>>> and then loads 1.1.6, which has moved classes between packages, leading 
>>>>> to a temporary (i.e. during load) dirty package, leading to the 
>>>>> Monticello warning.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can also try to change the metacello loadType to #atomic instead of 
>>>>> #linear.
>>>>> Finally, you can also wrap an exception handler around the load statement.
>>>>> 
>>>> Yeah, I wanted to do that. But then I changed my workflow to use zero conf 
>>>> scripts and that whole problem handling you loose by using the „modern“ 
>>>> workflow.
>>> 
>>> I also wonder if the Metacello scripting API has a handler for this 
>>> situation (i.e. suppressing errors)
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Norbert
>>>> 
>>>>> Johan
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 21 Mar 2014, at 09:20, Norbert Hartl <norb...@hartl.name> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What should be changed in order to solve it?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Norbert
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Am 20.03.2014 um 17:09 schrieb Johan Brichau <jo...@inceptive.be>:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Found it:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Magritte3 references Grease1.1.5 explicitly
>>>>>>> MongoTalk references Grease #stable
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Looks more like a Metacello bug to me... there clearly is a load 
>>>>>>> conflict and Metacello should decide on a version rather than load them 
>>>>>>> both sequentially.
>>>>>>> But I have not looked any deeper....
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Johan
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 20 Mar 2014, at 17:02, Johan Brichau <jo...@inceptive.be> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I can reproduce the problem. 
>>>>>>>> For some strange reason, first Grease 1.1.5 is loaded and then 1.1.6 
>>>>>>>> is loaded (in the same metacello load of VoyageMongo).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The package becomes dirty because some classes changed from the 
>>>>>>>> Pharo20 package in 1.1.5 to the Core package in 1.1.6.
>>>>>>>> Because Metacello first loads the Core package, the Pharo20 package 
>>>>>>>> becomes dirty. When the new version of the Pharo20 package is loaded, 
>>>>>>>> Monticello raises the warning.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have noticed a similar issue when upgrading versions of Zinc in 
>>>>>>>> Pharo1.4 because significant package refactorings occurred.
>>>>>>>> So, this is nothing specific to Grease / Magritte / Seaside / ...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I wonder if this can be simply fixed by changing the load type to 
>>>>>>>> #atomic. At least, that is how I fix those issues when loading Yesplan 
>>>>>>>> in Gemstone.
>>>>>>>> But clean builds work perfectly. And I would want to know why first 
>>>>>>>> version 1.1.5 is loaded in this load process.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Johan
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 20 Mar 2014, at 16:39, Johan Brichau <jo...@inceptive.be> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Norbert,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> From your screenshot, I see that the Grease package you have loaded 
>>>>>>>>> in your image is dirty. It is also the package version that gets 
>>>>>>>>> loaded with Grease 1.1.5.
>>>>>>>>> My first question is: why is it dirty? Can you check that?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The package version you are loading is the one that is referenced by 
>>>>>>>>> Grease 1.1.6
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I just tagged Grease 1.1.6 as #stable yesterday. So that probably 
>>>>>>>>> triggers this.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Though I cannot see any reason why this occurs and Seaside 3.1 is 
>>>>>>>>> loading well here.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Johan
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 20 Mar 2014, at 15:47, Norbert Hartl <norb...@hartl.name> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I encountered a strange problem while loading voyage. It seems the 
>>>>>>>>>> configuration for magritte or grease is strange. If I load voyage 
>>>>>>>>>> from the configuration browser I get the following screen
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> <Bildschirmfoto 2014-03-20 um 15.43.56.png>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Norbert
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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