On Thu May 22 01:18:51 2014 Eliot Miranda <eliot.mira...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi All, > > > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 3:11 AM, stepharo <steph...@free.fr> wrote: > > > We would love to have a real update but I'm sure that you realize that > > something we > > are modifying the system that modify the methods modifying the system. > > > > but we've been doing that for years. It used to be tricky using change > sets, but Monticello's update scheme means it is very simple. > > > > > > So we should probably remove the software update button. > > Now if somebody wants to work on an infrastructure supporting real > > atomic load. > > > > I don't think one needs atomic load to do this. It is very nice to have > but Monticello's update scheme is sufficient. > > > > Stef > > PS: the last time I updated my iPhone it blocked and I had to fully > > reinstall everything. > > And once when I updated my mac my mouse got blocked forever on the left > > top corner. > > > > But I can't remember the last time an update for Squeak failed and the > updates are of the cool kind you mention. Personally I think having an > update system is a *really important* facility in a development > environment. It means I can keep my personal working environment > up-to-date. That means I'm more likely to be able to contribute my own > improvements to the system. > > I worked for a long time with VisualWorks which has a closed development > cycle, and doesn't support anything like update. Keeping up to date was > always slightly tedious (one had to do things like export one's own stuff > and import it into the latest image, etc). Since I've been using Squeak > I've understood how superior the Monticello scheme is. So I would urge > you to /not/ remove the update button, and instead educate people in the > process so that potentially dangerous changes are done properly (by > defining baselines, a.k.a. updates in Monticello) and hence preserve the > valuable ability to keep one's own image up-to-date. > > -- > best, > Eliot
Are we talking about the update menu item in the system menu? I don't understand this discussion, I always use this menu item for updating the image. I thought this is the nomal way. And I never had any problems with that (maybe it works because I use it regulary) How do you keep the image up to date? Nicolai
