2014-06-20 5:06 GMT-03:00 Clément Bera <bera.clem...@gmail.com>:
> 2014-06-19 18:35 GMT+02:00 Esteban A. Maringolo <emaring...@gmail.com>:

>> What kind of applications? Is there an business interest of running on
>> ARM processors? Is there a sale advantage of having this? I don't want
>> to sound too inquisitive nor pedantic, those are real questions.

> Yes there is a business interest of running on ARM processors. Some of the
> big companies use smalltalk on their own hardware for very specific tasks,
> and they are now constraint to use x86 processor due to smalltalk.
>
> In addition for some big projects management checks how the environment is
> compatible to other platforms, and they can check "running on ARM, Android,
> iOS, ..."

I don't know about other PMs.
But of the two companies I know that evaluated Pharo to develop "big
projects" (10+ current smalltalk developers) one discarded it not
because OS support, but rather because of simpler, mundane, library
related, things. (However this is a different topic).

>> As stated in previous mails, running on the platform is a technical
>> challenge per se (I couldn't make it if I wanted), but it's just a
>> very small part of "deploying to Android". And I'm not talking about
>> app stores.

> I agree. I want to run on ARM, not necessarily and Android.

Fair enough.

IMO, and from the PR point of view, saying it "runs on Android" and
then finding out it is an alien process in the platform is not a good
sales point.


>> But how I see this, the advantage of Pharo running on Android for
>> devices other than phones/tablets, more kind of "internet of things"
>> devices. The advantage is also that the image is an asset of the vm,
>> so you can update your app without having to reinstall it through the
>> platform app management.

> There is also this direction. Running on ARM is very important to be cross
> platform. That includes connected objects, the raspberry pie, and many other
> devices.

That's totally reasonable, and a platform where something like a self
contained platform like Pharo can do "magical" things.




Regards!

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