probably, but in any case it has to be implemented using existing idioms, not 
repeating code, which was the core of my point. 
 
crap. I really need to turn off my computer or I will continue watching mails ;)

Esteban

> On 05 Jan 2015, at 17:25, Tudor Girba <tu...@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> As discussed in this thread, I do not see a reason for implementing this 
> method in Object.
> 
> Having it in Collection/UndefinedObject can make some sense (although I do 
> not really like it) for working with variables that can be either collection 
> or nil.
> 
> Cheers,
> Doru
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 8:59 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <esteba...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:esteba...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> in any case, we already have the idiom #isEmptyOrNil (btw, in pharo4 it was 
> removed from Object and I don’t know why, but is still in Collection and in 
> UndefinedObject).
> So, in case of adding it, the correct implementation should be: 
> 
> 1) restore Object>>#isEmptyOrNil ^ false
> 2) implement: 
> 
> Object>>#ifEmptyOrNil: aBlock
>       self isEmptyOrNil ifTrue: aBlock.
>       ^ self
> 
> which IMO is the clean way to implement such idiom. 
> 
> said that, I will go back to my vacations :)
> 
> Esteban
> 
>  
>> On 05 Jan 2015, at 15:47, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaring...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:emaring...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> El Mon Jan 05 2015 at 3:36:50 PM, stepharo <steph...@free.fr 
>> <mailto:steph...@free.fr>> escribió:
>> 
>> This is not because some people may not know how to program in other 
>> languages that we should copy that. 
>> 
>> I share your "taste" for this kind of code.
>> 
>> But this purist approach raises the bar leaving out a lot of developers with 
>> poor design/modelling skills. The more 1:1 mappings they can bring in from 
>> their previous language of choice, the better, and higher the odds they'll 
>> clinge on Pharo and continue using it.
>> 
>> To make both "sides" of this discussion happy I think the base image 
>> shouldn't include this, and there can be an extra package with these 
>> "language" extensions.
>> 
>> Regards!
>>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
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