Much truth in what you say. However, what Oracle choose to invest its
money, time, personnel resource into Java does affect its present and
future. It has a great affect. But it isn't the whole story. Java has
enough momentum in what already exists in the language and vm and what
has been release under its license, for businesses to keep going for
some time with only what currently exists.
The nice part about the Pharo story is this, as Stef says:
Pharo is yours.
What Pharo is and becomes is up to us, the community. Not what any major
corporation says it is or is not going to do. Pharo is what we make it
to be. Pharo will become what we make it to become.
It is nice to have organizations and corporations as part of the
community, such as INRIA, etc. They offer substantial resources and are
a blessing. And the nice thing is that Pharo does not need an Oracle
size corporation to keep it going and viable. Can Java say that? Time
will tell. Could Java have gotten to where it is without it?
As you say, let's keep Pharo going so that it can empower the little guy
or smaller business. :)
Shalom.
Jimmie
On 11/25/2015 04:29 AM, Dimitris Chloupis wrote:
Clickbait ! ClickBAIT !!!!!
Let me remind you that bloggers have been declaring Java dead for over
a decade now. Java still goes strong and is the undisputed king of
Enterprise coding no other language can even remotely touch it, mainly
because of its huge powerful library made for big businesses. Pharo
cannot compete with Java, it does not have the resources to, right now
the only true competitor to java is C# and even C# though backed by
Micro$oft , still it lags very much behind it in terms of popularity.
Let me also remind you that Java is the language that mutilated the
then undisputed king of of programming languages C++ stealing away
tons of its coders. Probably the biggest migration of coders ever.
Only fools underestimate Java.
Java is big, Java is ugly, Java is powerful and Java is here to stay
for a long, long time.
My advice to Pharo, keep doing what you know best, helping lone coders
and small teams compete with large companies in terms of productivity.
Dont compete, innovate.
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 12:03 PM S Krish
<krishnamachari.sudha...@gmail.com
<mailto:krishnamachari.sudha...@gmail.com>> wrote:
/Opportunities.. for Pharo..
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/The email, sent to InfoWorld on Tuesday by a former high-ranking
Java official, claimed to feature details from inside Oracle. It
said the company was becoming a cloud company, competing with
Salesforce, and “Java has no interest to them anymore.” The
subject line cited “Java – planned obsolescence.”/
/Oracle is not interested in empowering its competitors and
doesn’t want to share innovation, the email further alleges. The
company is slimming down Java EE (Enterprise Edition), but it also
doesn’t want anyone else to work on Java or Java EE and is
sidelining the JCP (Java Community Process). “They have a
winner-take-all mentality and they are not interested in
collaborating,” said the email. “Proprietary product work will be
done on WebLogic, and there’ll be a proprietary microservices
platform.” WebLogic is the Java application server Oracle acquired
when it bought BEA Systems in 2008./
https://dzone.com/articles/even-if-oracle-is-losing-interest-in-java-should-y?edition=115055&utm_source=Spotlight&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=java%202015-11-24
