On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 8:21 AM, stepharo <steph...@free.fr> wrote: > > > Le 15/2/16 14:10, Mariano Martinez Peck a écrit : > > > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 7:15 AM, Denis Kudriashov < <dionisi...@gmail.com> > dionisi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello. >> >> I think it is important to get single proxy framework for Pharo. It >> should provide required integration support for our tools. >> >> I want push Ghost in that direction. Debuggers and inspectors should work >> correctly with proxies which based on Ghost. >> >> > Hi Denis, > > I welcome you push on Ghost. The original source of Ghost was in SS3 and > then, the CAR team move it to Shub and hence why it is there. I THINK they > did not do many changes from the "upstream" project, so it should be safe > to take that one. I guess you should ask Luc Fabrese about that. > > Debugging, inspecting, etc was some of the problems that Ghost did solve. > I was able to do all that. And you were able to enable/disabled debugging > capabilities dynamically. > > What I really really really recommend you is that before doing anything > with Ghost, please read the whole journal paper as there is a lot of > discussion, possibilities, explanations of why we took path X, etc etc: > > https://hal.inria.fr/hal-01081236/file/Mart14z-Ghost-Final.pdf > > > >> Now Ghost is stored in CAR team repository. Should we move it to Pharo? >> >> > I know that is is subjective, but from my latest experience with git, if I > were to make the move of a repository (which requires some effort) I would > do it to github. > > > No core package of Pharo should be managed with git. > We will move all together and not pieces by pieces. >
This is great to hear! > > Finally, let me say something.... what I got from my Ghost proxies > experience is that Ghost could serve as a proxy library for "common" usage. > The code of Ghost is very very little. What is most important is the idea, > not the code. This is why, many of the people that got interested in using > Ghost for a project X, they ended up "forking" the original Ghost code and > adapt it. So...while Ghost can be used and extended for different purposes, > I think it's not bad either that someone forks it and adjusts it for his > needs. > > > P.S. Ghost has one failed tests due to Spur problem 17536 >> <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17536/VM-Crash-when-adding-an-iVar-to-a-subclass-of-SystemAnnouncement> >> . >> >> Best regards, >> Denis >> > > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > > > -- _,,,^..^,,,_ best, Eliot
