Hi Stef, > De: "Stephane Ducasse" <[email protected]> > Para: "rmod" <[email protected]>, [email protected], > [email protected] > Enviados: Jueves, 23 de Noviembre 2023 11:28:15 > Asunto: [rmod] Pharo needs you! Call to save the Pharo UI
> Hello people > If you want that Pharo just do not endlessly stay with such a crappy UI we all > know, > please consider joining the effort. > We should make sure that as a general principle, a model MUST not refer to a > UI. > So that we can change the UI. We are working on it. But we need help. > We should > (1) Migrate last cool Morphic-based tools such as Finder, Settings to Spec2, > FileList to Spec > (2) Remove dependencies from Domain objects to Morphic (obviously) > - remove to UIManager first from code outside Morphic. > As a general principle please watch > [ http://rmod-pharo-mooc.lille.inria.fr/AdvancedDesignMooc/Videos/M03_S5.mp4 | > http://rmod-pharo-mooc.lille.inria.fr/AdvancedDesignMooc/Videos/M03_S5.mp4 ] > [ http://rmod-pharo-mooc.lille.inria.fr/AdvancedDesignMooc/Videos/M09_S4.mp4 | > http://rmod-pharo-mooc.lille.inria.fr/AdvancedDesignMooc/Videos/M09_S4.mp4 ] > It looks basic but it is so true. > Current status > (1) > Hernan started to work on the Setting Browser > I know someone started to work on Finder but I think the effort was stalled. > We need help there. As a reference so that anyone can check the new Settings current status, this is the repository I'm working on: https://github.com/hernanmd/new-settings-browser Regarding the FileList, I'm afraid we duplicate efforts unnecessarily: I worked some time ago on https://github.com/hernanmd/file-dialog and then I saw that https://github.com/pharo-spec/NewTools appeared, it's a pity to have such a bad communication. The issue to close is the following: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues/15455 Cheers, Hernán > (2) > We started to clean the refactorings and we are making progress but this is > slow. > I started to remove references to UIManager because it should go away. > In Spec we introduced dialog, check the examples in subclasses of > SpDialogPresenter > In addition, an application is able to create some default dialog > check ui - dialogs in SpApplication > I introduced a simple notification center that should play a kind of growl. > The inform: calls should be redirected to notify: because inform: was in P11 > not > blocking and now in P12 there are. > I created special issues about the references to UIManager > I opened issues with a special tag > [ > https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Project%3A+RemoveUIManager+BAD+dependencies%22 > | > https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Project%3A+RemoveUIManager+BAD+dependencies%22 > ] > The analysis is here > [ https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues/14174 | > https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues/14174 ] > Here are some scripts. > # Here we see the dependencies from Spec to UIManager > | allSpec results | > results := Dictionary new. > allSpec := SpPresenter withAllSubclasses. > UIManager selectors do: > [ :sel | > | size | > size := ((SystemNavigation default allCallsOn: sel ) > select: [ :mth | allSpec includes: mth methodClass ]) size. > size isZero ifFalse: [ > results at: sel put: size]]. > String streamContents: [ :s | > results keys sorted do: [ :k | > s nextPutAll: k , ' -> ', (results at: k) asString. s cr. ]] > # The following script shows the callers that are not in Spec nor in Morphic > | allSpec results allMorphs | > results := Dictionary new. > allSpec := SpPresenter withAllSubclasses. > allMorphs := Morph withAllSubclasses. > allClasses := Smalltalk allClasses. > allClasses := allClasses reject: [ :c | allSpec includes: c ]. > allClasses := allClasses reject: [ :c | allMorphs includes: c ]. > UIManager selectors sorted do: > [ :sel | > | size | > size := ((SystemNavigation default allCallsOn: sel ) > select: [ :mth | allClasses includes: mth methodClass ]) size. > size isZero ifFalse: [ > results at: sel put: size]]. > String streamContents: [ :s | > results keys sorted do: [ :k | > s nextPutAll: k , ' -> ', (results at: k) asString. s cr. ]] > abort: -> 1 > abort:title: -> 5 > activate -> 15 > alert: -> 4 > alert:title: -> 4 > alert:title:configure: -> 2 > beDefault -> 2 > chooseDirectory -> 1 > chooseDirectory: -> 1 > chooseDirectory:from: -> 2 > chooseDirectoryFrom: -> 1 > chooseFrom: -> 2 > chooseFrom:lines: -> 2 > chooseFrom:lines:message: -> 1 > chooseFrom:lines:message:title: -> 2 > chooseFrom:lines:title: -> 8 > chooseFrom:title: -> 5 > chooseFrom:values: -> 5 > chooseFrom:values:lines: -> 1 > chooseFrom:values:lines:message: -> 1 > chooseFrom:values:lines:message:title: -> 3 > chooseFrom:values:lines:title: -> 4 > chooseFrom:values:message:title: -> 4 > chooseFrom:values:title: -> 8 > chooseFullFileNameMatching: -> 1 > chooseFullFileNameMatching:label: -> 1 > chooseOrRequestFrom:values:lines:title: -> 3 > confirm: -> 47 > confirm:label: -> 5 > confirm:label:trueChoice:falseChoice:cancelChoice:default: -> 1 > confirm:orCancel: -> 1 > confirm:trueChoice:falseChoice: -> 2 > confirm:trueChoice:falseChoice:cancelChoice:default: -> 6 > deactivate -> 5 > debugProcess:context:label:fullView:notification: -> 1 > defer: -> 24 > deny: -> 2565 > deny:title: -> 2 > displayProgress:from:to:during: -> 4 > edit:label: -> 4 > edit:label:accept: -> 3 > fileExistsDefaultAction: -> 1 > handleDebugRequest:fromDebuggerSystem: -> 1 > handleError: -> 2 > handleError:log: -> 2 > handleWarningDebugRequest:fromDebuggerSystem: -> 1 > inform: -> 98 > inform:actionOnClick: -> 1 > informUser:during: -> 13 > informUserDuring: -> 5 > logError: -> 2 > lowSpaceWatcherDefaultAction: -> 1 > merge:informing: -> 2 > multiLineRequest:initialAnswer:answerHeight: -> 5 > newDisplayDepthNoRestore: -> 1 > newMenuIn:for: -> 15 > onPrimitiveError: -> 1 > proceed:title: -> 2 > question:title: -> 2 > questionWithoutCancel: -> 1 > questionWithoutCancel:title: -> 2 > request: -> 13 > request:initialAnswer: -> 19 > request:initialAnswer:entryCompletion: -> 1 > request:initialAnswer:title: -> 13 > request:initialAnswer:title:entryCompletion: -> 6 > requestDebuggerOpeningFor: -> 1 > requestDebuggerOpeningForProcess:named:inContext: -> 1 > requestDebuggerOpeningForWarning: -> 1 > requestDebuggerOpeningNamed:inContext: -> 1 > requestPassword: -> 3 > restoreDisplay -> 3 > restoreDisplayAfter: -> 1 > spawnNewProcess -> 4 > systemNotificationDefaultAction: -> 1 > terminateUIProcess -> 1 > textEntry: -> 2 > textEntry:title: -> 2 > textEntry:title:entryText: -> 2 > unhandledErrorDefaultAction: -> 3 > warningDefaultAction: -> 1 > -------------------------------------------- > Stéphane Ducasse > http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org > 03 59 35 87 52 > Assistant: Aurore Dalle > FAX 03 59 57 78 50 > TEL 03 59 35 86 16 > S. 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