Stef,

I thought so too until a while ago, but it appears to be long gone.  I would 
enjoy being shown otherwise.  However, I still think there is good reason to 
expose and promote both curl and OpenSSL because they will draw "customers."

Bill 


-----Original Message-----
From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr 
[mailto:pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Stéphane 
Ducasse
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 5:08 AM
To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Port of Cryptography to Pharo

Ok I thought the cryptology package was working well and maintained.

Stef

On May 22, 2009, at 11:58 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:

> Agreed: I mentioned both curl and OpenSSL - we should embrace both.   
> AFACT, the cryptography package is a thing of the past, and we should 
> look to active projects.  Tell me where I'm wrong, please.
>
> Another reality, fair or not: if we were to take on the enormous 
> burden of maintaining the cypto package, there would always be 
> questions about security holes we left open.  The same will be true of 
> OpenSSL, but there is (not always fair) credibility in numbers widely 
> known projects.  There will be would-be users of Pharo who will want 
> OpenSSL for its reputation, and who would question a home- grown 
> solution.
>
> Bill
>
>
> From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr 
> [mailto:pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr
> ] On Behalf Of Fernando olivero
> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 4:20 AM
> To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Port of Cryptography to Pharo
>
>
> Just a comment,
>
> you could use the new  AlienFFI framework to comunicate with curl.
> Or reify any C library you want in Pharo.
>
> Fernando
>
>
> On May 22, 2009, at 5:04 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
>
>> The most recent post on the crytography mailing list starts out as
>> follows:
>>
>> Since the Cryptography Team doesn't exists anymore, the Cryptography 
>> package is not maintained by anyone. The SSL implementation doesn't 
>> allow easy debugging, you can't just turn on logging to see what's 
>> happening. Following the state machine transitions should give you 
>> the answer why the handshake isn't succeding. It might be related to 
>> certificates or TLS->SSL3 fallback. If I were you, I would go with 
>> curl.
>> I think it is time to write a wrapper around open SSL in addition to 
>> looking at the curl plugin.  Trying to write cryptography code from 
>> scratch and get and keep it right is a huge effort, and pretty
>> avoidable, and IMHO, better avoided by letting others do the job.   
>> Ever read Sun Tzu?
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr 
>> [mailto:pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr
>> ] On Behalf Of Mariano Martinez Peck
>> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 8:51 PM
>> To: Pharo Development
>> Subject: [Pharo-project] Port of Cryptography to Pharo
>>
>> I don't know if there is anyone of the developers of the package 
>> Cryptography but is someone is willing to do the port of it to Pharo? 
>> Most tests are break and it seems not to work because lots of  
>> Cryptography methods where in classes like SmallInteger and these 
>> methods were removed in Pharo.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Mariano
>> <ATT00001.txt>
>
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