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________________________________ From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Mariano Martinez Peck Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 7:48 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Port of Cryptography to Pharo On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <bsch...@anest.ufl.edu<mailto:bsch...@anest.ufl.edu>> wrote: Ramiro, *The* cryptography package as written was not necessary to anything; **a** crytography package is indeed necessary for lots of things, no argment there. OpenSSL can do the hashes you require courtesy of FFI/Alien or a wrapping plugin. We'll get there, and hopefully not by re-inventing the wheel as the original team chose to do; sorry, but it's a tricky area where mistakes are easy to make and can be catastrophic. Bill why don't you propose this for a ESUG SummerTalk project ? Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr> [mailto:pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr>] On Behalf Of Ramiro Diaz Trepat Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 5:19 AM To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Port of Cryptography to Pharo I'm really sorry to hear it is no longer being maintained. It was a necessary package to connect to properly set up Postgres databases, that requiere sending password hashes with SHA-1. We will probably face this kind of need when interacting with the outside world in general. It was a fantastic package, I wonder why the maintainers droped it. I suppose maintaining crypto frameworks up to date, with no vulnerabilities, is a lot of work. Sorry for venting out my sadnes to the list. Cheers r. -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr> [mailto:pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr>] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse Sent: 22 May 2009 11:08 To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Port of Cryptography to Pharo Ok I thought the cryptology package was working well and maintained. Stef On May 22, 2009, at 11:58 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Agreed: I mentioned both curl and OpenSSL - we should embrace both. > AFACT, the cryptography package is a thing of the past, and we should > look to active projects. Tell me where I'm wrong, please. > > Another reality, fair or not: if we were to take on the enormous > burden of maintaining the cypto package, there would always be > questions about security holes we left open. The same will be true of > OpenSSL, but there is (not always fair) credibility in numbers widely > known projects. There will be would-be users of Pharo who will want > OpenSSL for its reputation, and who would question a home- grown > solution. > > Bill > > > From: > pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr> > [mailto:pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr> > ] On Behalf Of Fernando olivero > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 4:20 AM > To: > Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Port of Cryptography to Pharo > > > Just a comment, > > you could use the new AlienFFI framework to comunicate with curl. > Or reify any C library you want in Pharo. > > Fernando > > > On May 22, 2009, at 5:04 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > >> The most recent post on the crytography mailing list starts out as >> follows: >> >> Since the Cryptography Team doesn't exists anymore, the Cryptography >> package is not maintained by anyone. The SSL implementation doesn't >> allow easy debugging, you can't just turn on logging to see what's >> happening. Following the state machine transitions should give you >> the answer why the handshake isn't succeding. It might be related to >> certificates or TLS->SSL3 fallback. If I were you, I would go with >> curl. >> I think it is time to write a wrapper around open SSL in addition to >> looking at the curl plugin. Trying to write cryptography code from >> scratch and get and keep it right is a huge effort, and pretty >> avoidable, and IMHO, better avoided by letting others do the job. >> Ever read Sun Tzu? >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> From: >> pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr> >> [mailto:pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr> >> ] On Behalf Of Mariano Martinez Peck >> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 8:51 PM >> To: Pharo Development >> Subject: [Pharo-project] Port of Cryptography to Pharo >> >> I don't know if there is anyone of the developers of the package >> Cryptography but is someone is willing to do the port of it to Pharo? >> Most tests are break and it seems not to work because lots of >> Cryptography methods where in classes like SmallInteger and these >> methods were removed in Pharo. >> >> Regards, >> >> Mariano >> <ATT00001.txt> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project This email is confidential and subject to important disclaimers and conditions including on offers for the purchase or sale of securities, accuracy and completeness of information, viruses, confidentiality, legal privilege, and legal entity disclaimers, available at http://www.jpmorgan.com/pages/disclosures/email. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
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