Pentium 4 2.26 GZ, windows XP SP3, 2GB RAM 168199737 bytecodes/sec; 3670275 sends/sec
2009/7/16 Benoit St-Jean <bstj...@yahoo.com> > If that helps... > > 0 tinyBenchmarks > > Windows XP, 2002, SP3 > Pentium 4, dual core, 3Ghz, 2 Gb RAM > > All tests were run 5 times and here are the averages : > > Some comparisons: > > Squeak 3.9 latest update: #7067 > 76297334 bytecodes/sec; 3397437 sends/sec > > Squeak 3.10.2 latest update: #7179 > 74839234 bytecodes/sec; 3443964 sends/sec > > Pharo 0.1 latest update: #10377 > 75877223 bytecodes/sec; 3134820 sends/sec > > > > > > > > ----------------- > Benoit St-Jean > Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean > Blog: lamneth.wordpress.com > A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero. > (Albert Einstein) > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Gary Chambers <gazzagu...@btinternet.com> > *To:* Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > *Sent:* Thursday, July 16, 2009 6:51:59 AM > > *Subject:* Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few > observations > > In the Windows camp, Watery2 theme... > > Vista 64bit (32bit VM, of course), 4GB DDR2-800, Q9550 (2.8GHz), > Pharo0.1Core-10371. > > 0 tinyBenchmarks '569205113 bytecodes/sec; 16188534 sends/sec' > > Time millisecondsToRun: [ > Browser fullOnClass: Object selector: #at:. > World displayWorld] 373 > > Older laptop, XP, 1GB, Pentium M (1.73 GHz)... > > 0 tinyBenchmarks '294761082 bytecodes/sec; 8530869 sends/sec' > > Time millisecondsToRun: [ > Browser fullOnClass: Object selector: #at:. > World displayWorld] 677 > > Still feels quite responsive even on that! > > Regards, Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Schwab,Wilhelm K" <bsch...@anest.ufl.edu> > To: <Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr>; <alain.plan...@free.fr> > Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:07 AM > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations > > > On my crusty old Linux box: > > 155339805 bytecodes/sec; 3931964 sends/sec > > However, I always like to test on less than my customers will have, so by > some arguments, this machine is just about right. > > Bill > > > ________________________________________ > From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr > [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Alain Plantec > [alain.plan...@free.fr] > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 6:19 PM > To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations > > Adrian Lienhard a écrit : > > Bill, > > > > Could you post the results of the following benchmark? > > > > 0 tinyBenchmarks > > > > > On my MacBook Pro with 2.4GHz and the Mac 4.1.1beta2U VM I get: > > > > '543236074 bytecodes/sec; 12101592 sends/sec' > > > On Intel Core2 Duo T7700 at 2.4 GHz, Linux Ubuntu 9.04, 64 bit > pharo-core : #10379 '585812356 bytecodes/sec; 14531440 sends/sec' > pharo : #10373 '574312955 bytecodes/sec; 14261923 sends/sec' > > not so bad with linux :) > > Cheers > Alain > > > Cheers, > > Adrian > > > > On Jul 15, 2009, at 22:34 , Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > > > > > >> Stef, > >> > >> No browser should be that slow. I suspect the Linux vm is not a > >> speed demon, the xp machines I use are heavily burdened by anit- > >> virus software and other performance drains, etc. My linux box at > >> home might be further hindered by the fact that I bought a wide > >> screen monitor for it, and use LOTS of screen real estate. Still, > >> when I compare Pharo with other software (including Dolphin) under > >> similarly abusive conditions, Pharo is not quick. > >> > >> This particular image is small; it is based on the most recent web > >> image, and is 22 MB. It has some of my Seaside code in it, but has > >> not yet executed same. I have a couple of Seaside cleanup > >> expressions that help when images bloat up, but looking at the > >> current size makes me think I'm missing an opportunity. All that > >> aside, on my linux box, I find that after the saving cursor > >> disappears, it can take a few seconds for the image to again become > >> responsive. On xp in my office, there is at least a second of down > >> time after the cursor reverts to normal. > >> > >> In doing some SIF imports, I noted that it was hard to tell when the > >> image was still busy. I have no idea how long it should take to do > >> the work it was doing, but it took long enough that some gentle > >> prodding becomes irresistable: "is it done yet?" I remember lots of > >> debate about Cursor class>>showWhile: on Dolphin; it might be one of > >> those things that is tricky to get right. > >> > >> A little bit nicer news: I have it running on my office machine > >> (xp), with FreeType in use, and it's ok with the standard tools and > >> the w2k theme. > >> > >> Bill > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> [mailto:pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> ] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:31 PM > >> To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few > >> observations > >> > >> > >>> Stef, > >>> > >>> In terms of response times, even with a lot of things turned off, I > >>> was still surprised at how long it takes to change from even one > >>> method to another. > >>> > >> which browser are you using. > >> Because the old browser should not be that slow. > >> > >> > >> > >>> Anything past 0.2 sec (or whatever that threshold is) starts to add > >>> up; Pharo sometimes takes up to a second, which is _really_ shows up. > >>> > >>> Saving an image is not necessarily quick either, I _think_ > >>> particuarly > >>> on Linux?? > >>> > >> What is the size of your image: here jannik generated an image of > >> 800 mb. > >> > >> > >>> Also, I get the sense the wait cursors are displayed, on Linux, for a > >>> smaller fraction of the down time than on Windows. > >>> > >>> Bill > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> [mailto:pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> ] On Behalf Of Stéphane Ducasse > >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 12:58 PM > >>> To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few > >>> observations > >>> > >>> > >>> On Jul 15, 2009, at 6:04 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> Hello all, > >>>> > >>>> I managed to create an install script; as I suspected would be case, > >>>> it was very anticlimactic. I tried creating a password-protected > >>>> directory under my personal web site, but that did not go well. The > >>>> authentication is weird, so it was probably asking a lot. A > >>>> directory repository worked. > >>>> > >>> Good to know > >>> > >>>> Does Monticello/PackageInfo see a change in method category (aka > >>>> package) as a change to the package? > >>>> > >>> normally it should. > >>> > >>> > >>>> It appears not, and it worries me a little in that it seems to make > >>>> it easy to lose work by forgetting to save it. Do any of you script > >>>> saving your packages? > >>>> > >>> you can check in ScriptLoader to see how we compute the packages that > >>> changed (not only dirty but also new packages) > >>> > >>> > >>>> The results are untested at present, but I used SIF to transfer a > >>>> fair amount of code into Pharo. To cope with the naming of the ODBC > >>>> classes, I ended up doing things like Smalltalk at:#DBConnection > >>>> put:ODBCConnection, and that worked out nicely, at least AFAICT at > >>>> this stage. SIF finally ended up complaining about running out of > >>>> items when processing the last file. I reserve the right to later > >>>> report that it was a miserable failure, but it looks like I most of > >>>> the code imported. > >>>> > >>>> Using the standard tools, the w2k theme, disabling faded backgrounds > >>>> and enabling fast drag, performance on an older Linux system is ok > >>>> (more or less). There are still things that take too long, > >>>> > >>> like what? > >>> > >>> > >>>> and Pharo's responses are no better (sometimes worse) than even > >>>> software running over a remote desktop connection. We need a speed > >>>> boost, but judicious settings help a little. > >>>> > >>>> Is there a way to disable the anti-aliased fonts? In fairness, I > >>>> should try turning that off to see if any speed boost is worth the > >>>> price. > >>>> > >>>> Bill > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>> Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > ------------------------------ > Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet > Explorer® 8. 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