On Jan 24, 2010, at 8:53 AM, Miguel Enrique Cobá Martinez wrote:

> First that anything, thanks to Mariano for all the effort put in order
> to release a 1.0 version of Pharo. And to all the contributors also.

+ 200 :)
> 
> As part of incorporating Metacello to my projects, I have gain a little
> more insight in the working of it. For that I have been studying the
> existing configurations. I even contributed a pair to the repository.
> Tonight I was building a Pharo image using the ConfigurationOfPharo.
> 
> The announce said nothing but the inner workings of the dev image
> creations changed, although the result is exactly (with a lot of fixes
> included) the same that the rc1 image created with Metacello. The
> changes are this:
> 
> - in rc1, it was only necessary ConfigurationOfPharo to build a complete
> Pharo dev image. That is ConfigurationOfPharo included
> ImageForDevelopers.
> 
> - in rc2, ConfigurationOfPharo isn't enough to build a dev image (I
> noticed this tonight because I used ConfigurationOfPharo alone to build
> an image but in the end I didn't get autocompetition), it is also
> necessary to run a second script to load ImageForDevelopers and install
> it. This is all done in the installScript.st script included in the
> pharo rc2 dev image.
> 
> As I said before, the results are the same, but before all was done in
> the ConfigurationOfPharo and now requires two steps.
> 
> Now to the point. I understand that the separation of concerns is good,
> because ImageForDevelopers is already a separated and tested package
> that shouldn't be inside ConfigurationOfPharo.
> 
> - Shouldn't be necessary to create a ConfigurationOfImageForDevelopers
> and in this configuration reference ConfigurationOfPharo and then the
> installScript for the dev image use *only*
> ConfigurationOfImageForDevelopers?
> 
> - It appears that Dale will announce project preload/postload doIts next
> monday. If that happens, shouldn't be better to incorporate the code
> from DEVImageCreator as preload/postload do its to the
> ConfigurationOfPharo?

probably even if I do not have enough experience with metacello

> 
> It appears to me that DEVImageCreator is a mixture of different things,
> both preference tuning (setDefaultPreferences, setFonts) image fixing
> (addPreferenceCategories, cleanOpenMenu) and image building stuff
> (writeListOfPackages, showWelcomeWorkspaces).
> 
> Maybe the image fixing stuff should be a change incorporated to the
> PharoCore image, and the preference tuning should be a postload do it
> for the ConfigurationOfImageForDevelopers, and the image building stuff
> should be in the install script.
> 
> This way, if someone wants to build a image for developers (but without
> the list of packages, or welcome workspaces) it only has to use
> ConfigurationOfImageForDevelopers.

probably

> 
> Also, maybe after all this refactoring, the
> ConfigurationOfImageForDevelopers isn't necessary because all can be
> incorporated to the ConfigurationOfPharo as preload/postload do its.
> That is fine.
> 
> Also, the image for developers has stuff for squeak. This refactoring
> would permit to separate them in preload/postload for each platform, in
> a cleaner way.
> 
> As I said at beginning, this is only thoughts, and the current result
> image is the same as the one produced by the previous configuration, but
> maybe, with more time and less pressure, this refactoring and cleaning
> could be made.
> 
> Of course, I will try to do this and contribute the code as my time
> permits, but if someone can do it sooner, the better for all of us.
> 
> Thanks again for the hard work
> -- 
> Miguel Cobá
> http://miguel.leugim.com.mx
> 
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