On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Tim Mackinnon <tamackin...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi Mariano - I see that you have been working on Algernon - I haven't use
> Pharo that much (not Squeak to be honest - but I remember trying one of
> Damien's dev images that had Algernon and I thought it was pretty cool, and
> quite helpful for getting up to speed with Pharo).
>
>
Me too. That's why I suggested to include it again in PharoDev 1.1 when this
is done.
> Anyway - I am not sure how to get it running? Do I need a 1.1 image
>
>
- or will it work in 1.0?
>
I don't know 1.1. For the moment I use 1.0
> Do I load the ConfigurationOfAlgernon - and then should it work?
>
yes, try:
Gofer new
squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository';
package: 'ConfigurationOfAlgernon';
load.
((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfAlgernon) project version: '0.9.1') load
does it work ?
> When I do this - Shift-Return doesn't work (nor control-space). If I browse
> monticello for just Algnernon, I see there is a later version of Algernon,
> but if I load that I seem to get a walkback about a hand not understanding
> something.
>
> Do you have any tips to get me going? And is it possible to update the
> Squeaksource text to help newbies like me get going?
>
>
At some point, the welcome workspace was opened once after installing it. I
don't know why it dissapear. Should we put it again ? Evaliuate 'Algernon
openWelcomeWorkspace'
Cheers
mariano
> Tim
>
> On 16 Jan 2010, at 23:16, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Romain Robbes
> <romain.rob...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi Mariano,
>>
>> From a cursory look, it seems that it would be enough. I'll try to find
>> some time next week to make a version that works using this infrastructure.
>>
>>
> Cool !! Let me know so that we can integrate this change in PharoCore and
> ask other people for the impact it can bring. I am not sure about that. Do
> you know?
>
>
> Cheers,
>> Romain
>>
>>
>> On Jan 16, 2010, at 11:43 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
>>
>> Hi guys: Of course I would like having keymapper or similar working in
>> Pharo, but as I always say, I rather go step by step.
>>
>> Last night, I was up to 2 am trying to get this working. I was almost
>> there, but as I don't know everything about Morphic, I ask to you.
>>
>> What Simon said about the binary changeset of Algernon, is true. However,
>> I took the time to analyze the changeset and from my point of view (nil
>> knowledge in Morphic) it seemed a very good change. I fix it (it has
>> underscore assignment) and I was easily merged to Pharo. No conflicts. The
>> main change does the simplest modifications to HandMorph for it to support
>> various focus holders. And I think this is cool.
>>
>> So, suppose we integrate this changeset, Algernon, wouldn't have any
>> override the method sendKeyboardEvent:
>>
>> Now Romain, do you think that you can manage to get WorkingSet working
>> with this change without overriding? Algernon does, so maybe we can see how
>> it do it. I saw this: Algernon >> registerWithSystem
>>
>> There you will see it does a self activeHand addAdditionalKeyboardFocus:
>> self.
>>
>> That method was part of the Morphic changes.
>>
>> I commit the Mprhic changes in http://www.squeaksource.com/MarianoPhD
>>
>> Name: Morphic-MarianoMartinezPeck.396
>> Author: MarianoMartinezPeck
>> Time: 16 January 2010, 3:42:18 pm
>> UUID: 3587e1b2-36b4-4751-bcdb-ca6f4073788e
>> Ancestors: Morphic-MarianoMartinezPeck.395
>>
>> Romain, can you take a look and if this is not enough, how can we solve
>> easily this problem in Pharo?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Mariano
>>
>> 2010/1/15 Simon Denier <simon.den...@inria.fr>
>>
>>>
>>> On 15 janv. 2010, at 23:03, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2010/1/15 Simon Denier <simon.den...@inria.fr>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 15 janv. 2010, at 21:20, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Romain Robbes <romain.rob...@gmail.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> yes it has overrides ...
>>>>>
>>>>> that's because as far as I know, there's no keyboard shortcut
>>>>> management facility
>>>>> in Pharo. If there was one, I suppose Algernon and WorkingSet would
>>>>> coexist.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So...all your overrides are due to the shortcuts? I think it is not
>>>> fear to "forbid" a package to be included in a Dev image if we don't
>>>> provide
>>>> from the core a way to manage shortcuts. So:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Or we let this projects to be installed in the Dev image
>>>>
>>>> 2) We fix the problem with the shortcuts.
>>>>
>>>> Romain: can you tell us where exactly the problem is ? maybe someone can
>>>> give you a hand.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Taking a look at that, there are 2 overrides in WorkingSet
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How did you detect that ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Manually, using an extension-aware browser (O2Package, MC browse package,
>>> or the package environment) to detect extensions, then check history in the
>>> versions browser.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Impressive. You should be a detective :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A few years ago, I was called the human debugger during a project :) Now
>>> I try to restrain from this kind of sessions though, it's time consuming.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Simon
>>>
>>>
>>>
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